Why do so many heterosexuals like slash? (24)

1 Name: moonphase : 2011-01-03 09:06 ID:/+5FbtUF

Just read this http://www.trickster.org/symposium/symp164.htm and was wondering what reasons people had for liking it.

Personally I like slash simply because I like certain characters together, if they are the same gender or non-canon then fine, that isn't enough for me not to like the pairing.

What say you?

2 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2011-01-03 09:17 ID:Y/NYYEdp

I'll go and read that site in a few.

I'm favoring Yuri/feme-slash because I find it more to my liking.
I'm an asexual woman, with hetero preferences so i'm a kind of special case, though what I have figured out, is that same sex coupled have a sense of equality that lacks in hetero relationship, many women search for a dream, the perfect man, they either find that dream into slash pairings or into Androgynous women.

so my personal guess is that "gender equality" is the biggest reason psychologically at least

off to read the article now ;)

3 Name: THEKyuubi27 : 2011-01-03 10:47 ID:Rl7LM56U

I have no problem with slash, and i'm comfortable with it, but my problem is that when i'm not looking for a story, the whole page is swamped with yaoi of slash.

The same with Yuri. I've read stories with little to a lot of your, and had no problem with it. But I agree with >>2. Most likely gender equality.

4 Name: Munia : 2011-01-03 11:46 ID:GE39Hfg3

I just think that the characters look good together. I am pretty sure that i lean on more of the bisexual side of things. I like explicit things and i like to read slash more. I've always been like that. Me thinking that people of the same gender look good together i mean...

5 Name: Piccylo : 2011-01-03 13:09 ID:L98XujFi

Honestly, with me, it mostly runs the same way hetero guys like lesbians: it's hot. Hell, most of the yaoi pictures I enjoy gawking at have pairings I don't necessarily like to read, and in this case, the guys just being "cute" doesn't really do it for me. The ones I like to read I legitimately can see and understand in canon, right beside hetero and the occasional FxF.

There might be aspects of socio-political reasons (equality) in there, but by those fronts I tend to be more impressed/feel empowered by a strong female figure instead.

The idea that this is how some girls explore strong bonds between guys never hit me, but now that this article brought it up, I realized something about it: a lot of girls do explore that aspect through yaoi, and those couplings always bugged me. I know why now, too; I have had a great many male friends, and I never felt separate from their "mateship". The only time I really feel different from them is when they're talking about chicks. Result of this friendship? Everyone assumes you're fucking these guys. This is only funny for so long before people are "pairing" you with 80% your friends, so I think I'm applying that to when slash authors do it. (Come to think of it, this aspect of slash alone INFURIATED me and caused me to avoid yaoi for a long time, even while I was looking up guy-on-guy pr0n).

6 Name: kiotsukatanna : 2011-01-03 13:44 ID:tScEB4id

For me, it's really about the pairing.

There are very few yaoi/male slash pairing that I like, that I really like. Why? Because of the relationship between the two. They just mesh so well together. I honestly don't care what form they're in, be it male, female, or something else all together; as long as they ARE together. It's not that I'm all "RAWR! YAOI! MUST HAVE! D:<" In fact, most of my pairing preferences ARE Hetero. It's just that I really enjoy the relationship between the two and feel they really connect and fit together in a relationship of that nature, in what I feel is a believable manner.

Lol. I hope that makes sense.

7 Name: Piccylo : 2011-01-03 14:09 ID:L98XujFi

I was reading the article WHILE typing, but I honestly just finished it, and I obviously didn't get to the part where the author says it's different from how guys view lesbians. The author is well-thought out in her exploration, and most of the differences I have with her is purely by taste and individual psychology, but in this case I simply must disagree.

The sample of guys she must've conversed about this with must have been few and oddly polite about it. From what I garner, there are more reasons than "because we know it's fake", and this can be expressed by the pure amount of purely lesbian porno flicks, DVDs, and what-have-you that amount to several times the mass of gay male porno... and I'll tell you right now that the demand isn't that way because of lesbian viewers. I honestly haven't heard a great consensus between guys on why lesbians are hot, and the reasons they give can get as varied (and even mirror) some of her reasons for a girl liking slash. The biggest confirmation: they're tired of seeing a guy with a huge dong take the girl. BANG! I totally get tired of seeing the chick with the 16-year-old body get the guy! There is a consensus here!

And I wanna make a note on the penis-envy she touched on, because it's a funny topic to mention: I don't want a penis the way Freud envisions. With how guys gripe about the troubles with their bait-and-tackle, I think I'd rather rent a fully-functional one for a week for $50 and return it slightly used. I'd just like to see what it's like, and then return to my familiar vagina (which I am quite attached to).

8 Name: THEKyuubi27 : 2011-01-03 18:36 ID:X/R3njx0

>>7. I agree with you. I'm a guy, and I LOVE Lesbians, because, like you said, it's hot, and any guy would agree. But, I don't get why FanFiction is swamped with yaoi and slash. Like you know when you search for a certain character, and you see the page full of slash. For example, I happen to like Naruto, and when I search up the character Naruto, I end up getting three pages of Naruto slash. And my mates end up saying that it's mostly teenage chicks writing it. Can you please explain why?

By the way, you are right about why we like lesbians. Half of the time, I wanna see some chick action.

9 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2011-01-03 19:31 ID:kmeisJOw


>And my mates end up saying that it's mostly teenage chicks writing it. Can you please explain why?

That's because 80%(more or less) of fanfiction is being written by women

10 Name: C : 2011-01-03 19:46 ID:/NBCW4+2

>>8 "But, I don't get why FanFiction is swamped with yaoi and slash."

This is because, aside from hetero pairings, yaoi/slash is one of the most popular in the romance genres.

Yuri tends to be less popular. This might be due to the fact that, if most females write yaoi and most males write yuri aside from a few cases, the fact that about 70% (Maybe more, maybe less) of FanFiction.Net is female would greatly affect the amount of yaoi, yuri, and hetero pairings that appear in the archive.

If you search a single character that is male under the romance genre, you are always likely to find both hetero and yaoi pairings. Unless you select two characters to search, you can't be certain that you won't find yaoi/slash.

11 Name: C : 2011-01-03 20:45 ID:/NBCW4+2

>>10 I meant to say mostly males write yuri and mostly females write yaoi. Wanted to clarify on that.

12 Name: THEKyuubi27 : 2011-01-04 00:20 ID:X/R3njx0

>>9 I really didn't know it was about that many females writing on FanFiction. I assumed it was close to 50/50.

>>10 How did it get like that? I mean, I haven't been writing on there for very long(half a year) but I didn't think it was like that....

13 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2011-01-04 03:14 ID:kmeisJOw

>>11 not necessarily true I'm into Canon Yuri fandom and if not all the 99% of the writers are females, also in other Yuri fandoms that I might search sometimes also female writers.
and since Yuri started as a shoujo kind of fandom then it is not very surprising.

>>12 FF is a female world ;p

14 Name: Iaculus : 2011-01-04 09:56 ID:VweCbbxH

15 Name: Jaygirl942 : 2011-01-06 15:52 ID:aYW5HnON

I think that it's mostly females who write FF is because...well, this is me just generalising, but who is more likely to read/write and enjoy it? Males or females?
Now, I do know men who like to read and write, but it's usually mroe of a female thing. Also, girls fantasise more about things like romances and plot twists.
Oh, and >>11, I'm a girl and I write/read yuri. And yaoi. I might be biased though, because I'm Bi :)
And their are authors on ff.net who write yaoi but are straight men. I remember reading a profile of someone whoses girlfriend was also on the site, writing yaoi.

16 Name: Elkkun : 2011-01-15 06:16 ID:X+XO7npF

>>14 I may not get it Iaculus, or it may just be me being slow. I don't quite get it.... at all XD

17 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2011-01-15 17:17 ID:YaYQU5P6

This question is still going on? As some people have pointed out, how can one make this judgement when most fanfic writers are in fact female and it has been established that both slash and het people write slash... but then that might have been some of the other threads.

>>16 - The cartoon means that one girl, plus one girl equals two girs, thus twice the amount of girls for the guy. At least that was what I got.

18 Name: Elkkun : 2011-01-17 05:22 ID:JBGd/p7K

>>17 ah, that's what somebody else told me. hehe

19 Name: TheNightShaodw4 : 2011-01-17 19:32 ID:9MXNbDQP

For me, gender doesn't play a very big role in the pairings I enjoy, slash or hetero. It depends on wither I think their personalities mesh or not. I don't believe your gender defies you as a person, nor should it have any bearing on who you want to love.

Of course, occasionally I'll get in a mood when I want just want to read a good PWP, in which case I gravitate tours m/m slash. Why? Well, I don't really know. I'll admit I find boy on boy to be sorta hot, so maybe that's it.

20 Name: LynnB : 2011-02-26 01:49 ID:BtUBgkiR

I wouldn't say I agree full-heartedly with the 'gender equality' argument or that it applies to me, but it certainly makes an understandable case.

Personally, however, in the slash pairings I do support, it's more a matter of compatibility or how strongly I believe that opposites attract, regardless of gender. But as a woman with an inclination towards men, the compatibility I find in two men may stand out more to me.

But then that doesn't explain all the female pairings I support. So it's complicated to explain, and there's no clear answer.

21 Name: Naomi Hansen : 2011-03-02 17:55 ID:tIwXFaQs

I always joke around by saying that I'm so straight and love guys so much that I love seeing them make out with each other, especially the hot ones. But really, it's a bit of a phenomenon for me. I'm not sure how I got into it, since I was a bit of a homophobic moron when I got into yaoi and such.

22 Name: Chikanpo : 2011-03-03 22:45 ID:L1nLdJ6O

I myself am not a fan of yaoi or yuri, but a lot of my friends like it. I've asked them many times why, but they always reply with "I dunno, it's hot?". So yeah, I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. I see something and I'm like, "oh, yaoi/yuri. Whatever." So it doesn't but me or anything, I'm fine with it. But I'm also curious as to why my friends like it so much. Hm. Something to contemplate ^^ Maybe I'll convince them to give me a complete answer one day.


23 Name: BrainsEnough : 2011-04-03 16:52 ID:r3PXwNdA

well, I'm a totally straight heterosexual female and I love any m/f or m/m pairing AS LONG as it can somewhat make sense. When i write slash, it doesn't need to be exactly canon, but I also don't go throwing two random dudes with each other because "it would be hot". It started out with me curiously picturing a m/m couple from Cats the Musical, and it actually turned out that it was a VERY popular pairing. I've now gotten to love a lot of different slash couples from fandoms like Glee, American Idiot, The Producers, and Degrassi.

It's gotten to the point where I will try to pair real-life guys, but I make sure that they're actually gay.

And, just so I don't get flamed for this, I have NO problem with fem-slash, but I guess because I'm a girl I find it a bit uncomfortable. But again, it's fine. :)

24 Name: moonphase : 2011-04-19 06:01 ID:TMZsZX+y

I have noticed that slash tends to be really popular in anime and manga fandoms more than any other. Perosnally, I think the reason why yaoi is more popular than any, and only in manga/anime, is because female protagonists/love interests are overwhelmingly boring.

For example, Bulma from Dragonball was pretty awesome, and the Bulma/Vegeta pairing is more popular than the Vegeta/Goku pairing. I reckon because she's an interesting character.

Then in Tokyo Mew Mew Ichigo/Kish is more popular than Masami/Ichigo, even though both are het, just because it's a mroe interesting relationship to write about.

Most of the time, males are more interesting characters in anime and manga. So who would we rather write about, two interesting, strong, fiery characters, or one character like that and the other being a weak sap with big eyes who always fals over (i.e. typical manga love interest girl)?

Why is slash so popular in fanfic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q40O9U4lPOI

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