Who's story is this anyway?! (27)

1 Name: MaryMagdalen : 2010-11-08 16:01 ID:I2/WyRgh

OK, I'm currently writing a story on fanfic.net. There's this one person reading it who has a real downer on one character in the fandom, and every time she "reviews", she writes things like "when will everybody realise that X is behind all this and that X did this and that X is responsible for that and X gets put in prison and X's superiors get in trouble for not doing this and that and the other" etc etc etc.

I want to reply to these reviews and say "get your hands off my story! If you want that to happen, write the damn thing yourself!"

But I can't, because I'm way too polite!! :o)

So, has anyone else had a reviewer trying to write your fic for you, and how did you respond (if at all)?

2 Name: Marth : 2010-11-08 16:52 ID:LUWhh7k0

When reviewers suggest really bad ideas to me (which happens only occasionally, thank goodness), I do exactly what you're tempted to do: Suggest that they write the story themselves. I'd suggest doing it more politely than you're thinking of it you want them to leave you alone.

But giving the idiot the reply you're thinking of will probably produce lulz, so either way is good.

3 Name: Niori : 2010-11-08 22:00 ID:SSUpbWL2

OMG! I hate that!

It's one thing to offer suggestions or be all 'I would love to see this happen!' or 'I wonder if it's this that's going on!'- those show that the reader is putting thought into what they're reading.

The ones I really hate? The ones who are like "Great story, but if it was me..." and then go on to list what exactly they'd do if they had written the story. It's not your story damnit! If you're so sure about a plot, go and write your own story!

Yeah, I'm too polite to say anything either. If it's after the story is done, I stick with the "Thanks so much for reviewing!" responce, and if it's not done "Well, you'll just have to wait and see!" road.

4 Name: C : 2010-11-22 15:32 ID:MR7nBaRU

I know what you're talking about.

I'm an avid yaoi writer and this one reviewer would leave a review on my most recent story. At one point he was angry at me for not writing a sex scene when it so easily could have ensued.

I replied to him explaining that I am underaged and don't know exactly how to write a respectable sex scene and that such content was against the rules. I also told him that he should check the T rating of my story.

Haven't gotten a reply nor a review from him since.

Some people want specific things from your story and while you do have the obligation to cater your reader's needs, you must make it your work and not theirs.

5 Name: C : 2010-11-22 15:32 ID:MR7nBaRU

I know what you're talking about.

I'm an avid yaoi writer and this one reviewer would leave a review on my most recent story. At one point he was angry at me for not writing a sex scene when it so easily could have ensued.

I replied to him explaining that I am underaged and don't know exactly how to write a respectable sex scene and that such content was against the rules. I also told him that he should check the T rating of my story.

Haven't gotten a reply nor a review from him since.

Some people want specific things from your story and while you do have the obligation to cater your reader's needs, you must make it your work and not theirs.

6 Name: C : 2010-11-22 15:32 ID:MR7nBaRU

I know what you're talking about.

I'm an avid yaoi writer and this one reviewer would leave a review on my most recent story. At one point he was angry at me for not writing a sex scene when it so easily could have ensued.

I replied to him explaining that I am underaged and don't know exactly how to write a respectable sex scene and that such content was against the rules. I also told him that he should check the T rating of my story.

Haven't gotten a reply nor a review from him since.

Some people want specific things from your story and while you do have the obligation to cater your reader's needs, you must make it your work and not theirs

7 Name: Marth : 2010-11-22 16:22 ID:LUWhh7k0

>>4 Good for you! Well, uh, not the triple post, obviously. :P

But I wish more young writers (and older writers with similar experience) would decide not to write sex scenes due if they wouldn't know what they were talking about. PLUS, you know that explicit sexual content is against FFN's rules. You rock, C.

8 Name: Chris000 : 2010-11-22 20:24 ID:815W9KGh

>>7 Obviously! XD

>>4 Yeah, good job for not caving! Sure you know nothing about it, but it is against site rules.

BTW, I did try winging it one time on another site. Oh God am I bad at writing sex scenes...

9 Name: C : 2010-11-22 21:02 ID:MR7nBaRU

>>7 It's against the rules and people don't stop posting it. Though the guidline's use of explicit is a bit vague and there is room for enterpretation, but generally, don't write what you don't know, don't do something if you think it might be against the rules, and don't write porn on a site that prohibits it.

>>8 Well it's to be expected that area of expertise isn't for everyone. When you write a story, you need a general knowledge of it and a vast knowledge if you plan to go into detail.

So unless you know a whole bunch about it either from personal experience, or a lot of research, you can't be expected to do a spectacular, or even halfway decent, job.

10 Name: Chris000 : 2010-11-22 21:09 ID:815W9KGh

>>9 I am so sorry to be a grammar nazi, but ahem

*interpretation

and 'smut', not porn...do not ask me how I know.

That is all...

11 Name: Marth : 2010-11-22 22:17 ID:LUWhh7k0

>>Chris. If you're going to be anal about mistakes that don't inhibit one's ability to read a post, please make sure your own grammar is pristine. Your post was harder to decipher than C's.

Actually, don't even do it then. If someone makes so many mistakes that reading what they wrote is difficult, then by all means call them out, but if the mistakes are minor enough that they don't affect the clarity of the writing, keep your trap shut.

Oh, and I'm not going to ask you how you know the difference between "smut" and "porn," because, whatever you seem to think, there is not a difference. Porn can be purely textual. In fact, "pornography" comes from a Greek word that literally means "writing about harlots." One could make the argument that porn is more graphic, but there's no way to tell how graphic the stuff C mentions is, so that argument wouldn't fly here, either.

12 Name: Chris000 : 2010-11-22 22:37 ID:815W9KGh

>>11 Dude, I'm not insulting! I was agreeing with her totally in the post!

13 Name: Chris000 : 2010-11-22 22:38 ID:815W9KGh

Please, take it easy, Marth! What's with you acting totally hostile? I'm not trying to be a bad guy! I was agreeing with the poster entirely! I was just pointing something out! Calm down.

14 Name: Marth : 2010-11-22 23:33 ID:LUWhh7k0

What exactly was post 10 supposed to be agreeing with? All I see is a spelling correction and an incorrect terminology correction. Neither of which were necessary, making your post pointless and pedantic. Lord knows I'm all for getting on people's cases when they deserve it, but C didn't do anything to warrant you spending an entire post being all Smarter Than Thou at him.

15 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-11-22 23:58 ID:h8xOnP6w

>>1 - I haven't had a person do that, though I have had one reviewer have fun guessing where I might go with the fanfic. It isn't just one way it might go either, there are a lot of 'or' in there. So, I don't know what to say, other then I would ignore them until they get bad.

>>2 - I am glad.. as Marth said, I too wish more young writers would be like you. Not that sex scenes aren't disallowed, but for a T rated fanfic it is a no brainer that is against the rating system. And the ones that get overly explicit. I won't use the words for it here, the few I've happend upon... ugh... and so M+ it isn't funny.

>>9 - What distrubs me is people who interpret M to be anything and everything allowed. Asking why you are doing it is always a good question. And also asking if you would want a high schooler pulling it up in school... better yet, if it is a book, would you mind taking it to work and leaving it open to that page?

16 Name: Vaneskera : 2010-12-25 21:15 ID:8Yqmt2nf

I hate that so much! I made the two characters I ship hate each other due to the plot and to keep the plot moving, and all I ever get anymore is reviews saying, "Um, WHY HASN'T HE FORGIVEN HER YET??" and I'm just thinking, uh, in the series he is a mindless drone of a person with absolutely no capacity for forgiveness. I keep in character. If you want fluffy with this kind of character, go find a tasteless OOC fic.

17 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-12-28 16:56 ID:h8xOnP6w

>>16 - Now that I've had. I choose not to rush my fics.

18 Name: Alie : 2010-12-28 22:57 ID:llDYUbLY

I have had that too, but I'm a bit more evil about it, though I don't think evil is the right word. I like to e-mail said person hint that make just enough sense to irritate the hell out of them but leave them wanting to know what I was talking about and to futher it I like to end the next chapter in a bit of a cliffhanger, but only if the person really bugged me.
That rarely happens though. :)

19 Name: Elkkun : 2011-01-15 06:11 ID:gJUQ7tuB

I tend to ignore reviews that state something they could've easily read themselves.

"So is [insert character here] dead?"
Well, considering they're walking and pretty alive in the next chapter. What do you think?

I don't normally get reviews saying what should happen, which I'm thankful for but... I'm still wating on it.

>>14 Marth, don't be a big meanie (: we're all not grammatical gods. XD also, c; hi

20 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2011-01-15 17:24 ID:h8xOnP6w

>>19 - I've never gotten a review like that. I've gotten reviews from one person whom I know their reviewing style well and know very well that when they read something, they like formulated guesses as to what you may write. It's never a should you write, but a "I think you are going this way". Sometimes, I have bettered my ideas from their reviews. But there aren't many reviewers like that.

Actually, I've had some badfic/Suethor writers ask how I can guess the things I do just from the first chapter, and tell me that it should be impossible for me to know.
- One fanfic writer asked me how I knew that her OC was Japanese when she never said that and tried pulling a so there, and then I layed down the facts that she had a Japanese last name, she was in a Japanese fandom. Actually, concidering it was a self insert for other fanfics, I actually found out she really was Japanese, the fanfic writer just didn't like me calling them out for giving their character an English first name unexplained.
- Another fanfic writer asked me how I knew Aizen was going to be OoC when Aizen had never been introduced. Concidering he had a relative that was described to be just like Momo, it indicates that he picked Momo because of said relative and that shows he cares about said relative either in a positive or negative fashion, thus he was obsessed with her. The irony is, the fanfic writer said Aizen wasn't obsessed with Momo, but with the way the fanfic was written. (It was a fanfic where I believe that Aizen was supposed to be revenging his sister from a broken heart from Aizen, or... even worse, Aizen was Ichigo's half older brother through Isshin.)

21 Name: KazeYami : 2011-01-19 07:30 ID:lvMKgHUV

With the story I'm writing right now, i definitely have multiple people who really hate certain characters and give about the same reviews. "Wow, X is such a jerk! Why didn't Y expel X? If it were me, I would have had Y expel X and then see how X's parents deal with it and Z does afterward." I don't really know what to say to those people. It's like, 'Wow! Thanks for reviewing this story that, apparently, is going in completely the wrong direction?'.

However, I think there is a difference between, "You should write it like this," and, "I would love to see this." Because, I have had veeeeeeeery many reviews asking for more interaction between a certain set of characters, which I'm happy to oblige. But, I'm not going to change my story just because certain people think it would be better that way.

22 Name: Elkkun : 2011-01-19 15:04 ID:gJUQ7tuB

>>21 I guess by doing that they're trying to see another side to the story, what would happen. Have you ever wondered in a program you watched what would happen if X did do that to Y? Perhaps give them an insight of what would've happened if that did happen. If you ever get writer's block and need to shake it off, take that into consideration and perhaps you may get more ideas from it. You never know ;P

23 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2011-01-21 13:26 ID:h8xOnP6w

>>21 - I've had a few people go... I don't like such and such a pairing and usually it crops up when I've tossed in hints of Toshiro KArin.

>>22 - Yeah, which is why I write fanfiction. There is a difference in tone to the two kinds of phrases in >>21. I say, go write your own work, but then you end up people writing sequels for other peoples work without asking permision at least, and then buchering canon of both the fandom and the fanfic. Yes... I've seen it happen.

24 Name: Elkkun : 2011-01-22 14:50 ID:iMOxa0DV

>>23 Sounds painful at the least ;c

25 Name: fan-to-fiction : 2011-01-25 09:37 ID:U22U9n4h

>>24 Happened to me in a way. The person didn't like where the story was going so he/she wrote his/her own story with my plot line (though in the end it diverted because she inserted her own ideas the beginning was almost exactly the same).
The worse thing, though, is that she didn't even ask premission, which I thought she should have since she did use the plot I had going for about 20 chapters.

26 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2011-01-25 16:07 ID:h8xOnP6w

>>25 - Seriously, if someone is going to come up with their own version of something, they either need to start it at the begining with their own plotline, or they need to go and say that it follows someones story up to a certain point and start with where the plot changes. Of course, as I told another person on fanfiction.net, it is always good to let people know that you are doing something with someone elses characters and plot. Of course, there is a difference between an overall plot idea and having different stories and simply being inspired by someone elses work. It sounds like what that person did was basically plagerize.

27 Name: AkitaFallow : 2011-03-13 21:53 ID:CNaqyXEw

>>1 That is the EXACT review I'm getting for EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER of my recent fic. I just want to say to them, "NO, that person is NOT behind it all. I am more original than that, and it is MY story. I'm not going to fall into the cliche mould for this story. If it was stated like a possibility instead of a given, that would be fine. But NOT like 'When will X go all awesome and figure out that Y is behind everything?' Character Y has been mentioned NOT ONCE IN THE ENTIRE FIC. Not to mention that the events of the fic are entirely NOT Character Y's style at all. Now gtfo."

But, because I value reviews and, even though they're presumptuous, they're still reviewing, I don't say any of that.

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