Critics United (105)

1 Name: DarkSacredJewelXoX : 2010-09-26 16:16 ID:7bdWdvkk

How many of you are tired of getting those "omg diz is so Kaw@11" reviews? What about those "update soon please" reviews? I'm so sick of them. Recently I put in my a/n of a story on FF. Net that I was leaving for the military next week and people are still like "omg can't what for the update!". I' like can you read? That is besides the point. Critics United is a band of people who know how to give a real and honest review that are coming together from different fandoms in order to help authors who want to know what to work on. We love assisting people who would like an honest opinion of their story and not only that, we are accepting members. We need people who are always honest in their reviews even if what they have to say about the story isn't positive. We we never tell you "you suck go die" of course, but some are a little harsher than others. We have a variety of review styles and we just enjoy helping people. Visit my forums on FF. Net (my name is DarkSacredJewelXoX, just search for me in the search engine) if you just want to talk, want someone to review your story, need a beta, or are interested in joining. We're growing by the day xD. My question to you all is: how do you review stories? Do you just say the positives and leave out anything you think might offend the author? Do you give praise when it's deserved and criticism where needed?

Another question: when you find a fic on FF. Net that's breaking the rules, do you report it? Critics United does; however, we review the story to offer advice on how to fix it first and let the author know what rules they are breaking. Sometimes the authors admit their mistakes and change them; other times they author lashes out. When that happens, we do report the story.

56 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-11-28 23:49 ID:ZSjiY4pz

>>53 - I've recieved some death threats from people I've reviewed. If they hadn't deleted their fanfic, I would have reported it then and there. Tried making the excuse that they posted something they narated and let their nephew type up and he posetedbecause his nephew was so proud. I was like WHAT THE FUCK... I would NEVER have done something like that to a child.

57 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 09:40 ID:V6Rz2vTA

hi i was wondering what happens when someone go too for in their reviews? what happen when they say something so offended that you the author wants to just quit and give up on their story?

58 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 09:41 ID:V6Rz2vTA

hi i was wondering what happens when someone go too for in their reviews? what happen when they say something so offended that you the author wants to just quit and give up on their story?

59 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 09:42 ID:V6Rz2vTA

hi i was wondering what happens when someone go too for in their reviews? what happen when they say something so offended that you the author wants to just quit and give up on their story?

60 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 09:42 ID:V6Rz2vTA

srry new at this

61 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 09:43 ID:V6Rz2vTA

srry new at this

62 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-11-29 12:37 ID:ZSjiY4pz

>>57 -

  • First, you have to ask if the critisism was ligitimate.
  • Second, you have to read the review and ask yourself if they said anything that was bullying, like "kindergardeners know the difference between their and their" or if they happen to have told the author to quit writing.
  • Third, if they've told the fanfic writer to quit writing, look to see if their are other reviews. Sometimes though, a fanfic writer will have deleted offending stories simply because of offending reviews.
  • Forth, contact the person who said quit if their review was a rather nice critique and ask what the situation is. Never assume.
  • Fifth, if it turns out they are a flamer, report it using the report button on the right, though if it is anon, the fanfic writer will have to delete it.
  • Sixth, if they are honestly being bullied, tell them that there are people like that and to come back when they are ready, no sooner.
  • Seventh, if they recieved honest critique, tell them that they should take what the people said into concideration, no one is perfect. (That includes myself Elisa). If the fanfic is a rule breaking fanfic, they DON'T have a choice in the matter, as the mods will eventually get a report and deal with it.
  • Eighth, always remember, just because someone said something negative about the fanfic, or offended you because of saying something negative doesn't mean they are being rude or mean. Some people are honestly trying to help.

When people don't listen... well, I know of one fanfic writer I completly went off on after reviewing a DOZEN of her fanfics telling her what she did wrong. I told her the honest truth. She was basically in the Toshiro/Momo ship for Bleach, writing rabid fanfics, and then she tried to cross into a pairing that is pracitcally canon as of the latest Bleach chapters, Gin/Rangiku. That pairing is a serius one and people there don't put up with badfic for that ship. She wasn't just way layed by me, but other people. Mine was the most negative simply because I had to tell her the truth. The summary excited me, and then I read the fanfic and became highly disapointed. I was simply going to leave a critique, but... I glanced at the author's name and found out it was her, and then had to flat out tell her, unless she took time to take critique and grow as a writer, I would never, ever expect anything good to come from her writing. Did I tell her to quit writing? No... but I did tell her that I was not putting up with her nonsense anymore. She basically fled to a fandom I don't know much about.

63 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 14:51 ID:V6Rz2vTA

thank for ur advice its just that i wrote a story well started to and well after my first chap some people said some horible things about it i understand that my grammer had suck but i didnt really get time to prof read it and i was excited and well im really one of those people who have low self esteam and i guess thanks again

64 Name: Creeper : 2010-11-29 14:55 ID:PxOwMFxy

@57

I agree with Yemi Hikari on this. If the reviewer was being pointlessly mean or offensive, ignore them. In fact, if they went too far (e.g. suggested/referenced homicide or suicide), I'd report them and/or delete their review.

Otherwise, a good review should tell you about any grammar mistakes, spelling mistakes, or misplaced words. They'll tell you the weaknesses and the strengths of your story, and, should they do the former, they'll offer suggestions as to how you might improve your work. (e.g. I see that you put 'I' where a 'me' should be. In my review, I say something like: You misused 'I' in [fill in sentence]. That needs to be a 'me'.)

I hope that helps.

65 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-11-29 16:45 ID:ZSjiY4pz

>>63 - Not to mention, I looked and saw that one of your reviewers offered to help you with being a Beta Reader for you, to help you with your grammer issues. I suggest having them use the DocX system and finding the places that need corrections and then having you change them yourself, so that you'll learn and grow. Actually, one of my favorite reviewers on my old fanfics reviewed for the story and to help me on my grammer when I first started out. Nolstalgia.

66 Name: elisalove : 2010-11-29 19:58 ID:V6Rz2vTA

thanks guys i really apopreciate ur advices

67 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-11-29 22:46 ID:ZSjiY4pz

>>66 - Welcome! :)

68 Name: KazeYami : 2010-12-01 07:33 ID:Mirr9h0M

I'm always fairly honest in my reviews. But, I find, that most authors don't really like that. My review is either ignored, where all the others are replied too, or the author goes on a long diatribe about how and why the story is written like this or this character is acting like that. Which just annoys me. If you have to explain something outside of the story, then just put that in the story.

So, lately, I don't review much. If I do, it's usually just the stories that I like, in which I give positive feedback.

69 Name: Anonymous : 2010-12-01 16:47 ID:ZSjiY4pz

>>68 - I know how that feels really. But I also know, if someone doesn't step up and hold these people to have some sort of standard, they won't ever think to have standards. Actually, some are like, who cares about the rules, treating life as if they can get away with anything. Or... more perhaps along the lines that the internet is NOT part of the real world, when it really is.

70 Name: KazeYami : 2010-12-01 18:12 ID:vD+vMijX

>>69 - Yeah, but, some of them get really upset. And, I understand. If you're just writing something for fun, or you're all young and angsty and full of soft mushy spots that are easily bruised, then fine. It's cool, I don't have to critique them. I just wish that they would say, somewhere in the beginning of the story or something, "No negative feedback," or "Not looking for critiques." I can respect that.

But, obviously, they don't. So, then, I do. And, then they get their feelings hurt and I'm left standing there looking like a little baddy. ;o; Poor me, oh, my.

71 Name: C : 2010-12-01 19:39 ID:6bIxm0Jh

>>69 Many of the newer members who have posted their first FanFic are very susceptible to criticism if you are nice enough about pointing out their mistakes and how to fix them, but there will always be the ones that think their stories are holy pieces that need not be edited at risk of disturbing the balance that makes it so 'amazing.'
Standards need to be set if anyone is to be improved upon.

>>70 I've been blunt and to the point with some writers that are twelve and many of them simply say that they didn't know and start editing it.

Many will put, "No flames." But that leaves room for interpretation, meaning that leaving a critique can set them off for "flaming" their story.

Writing for fun doesn't mean you can't improve upon yourself, and some people are truly too soft when it comes to being criticized in anything they do. You need to learn what you're doing wrong to fix it.

Don't feel bad about 'hurting their feelings.' Many simply overreact or are extremely defensive of their work. Telling them what is wrong with their story is not a crime. You are doing nothing wrong and should feel no remorse in trying to help them.

72 Name: KazeYami : 2010-12-02 09:59 ID:HkVOaVx2

>>71 You're a very nice lady and/or gentleman. Thank you very much. X3

73 Name: Jennifer : 2012-01-23 09:25 ID:jZg3Nvgw

I have already become somewhat of a critic on fanfiction.net. If I see a good story I tend to leave a good review with helpful hints on what could improve the story even further. I do have a hard time reviewing a bad story simply because I don't really like to be mean and there isn't much nice I could say for the bad story.

74 Name: Lauren : 2012-01-24 17:58 ID:72l2W0Og

>>73 I completely know where you're coming from. Its hard to sit and come up with the nicest way possible to tell the writer they need work and to get them to actually take you're advice, when the story is bad. Something I've found to make it easier to help others is to think about if this were my story, what advice and crit would I listen to the most. I form the review the way i would like to see on one of my stories, the way some great people have done for me and hope that the person will take my crit into consideration.

>>71 I know I can be protective of my own work at times but I think if the reviewer words it as they are giving advice to help strengthen the story and the writer themselves, they will be more open to the information coming in. Rather than many reviewers that I've seen that come along and just tear the story apart and leaving it. If a reviewer can tell the writer what they found wrong, and maybe a suggestion on how to fix it, more writers would listen. Its difficult listening to anyone who rips apart something you've been working hard on. That's just my view on it as the writer.

I feel that being a writer myself and seeing the kind of reviews that help me will help me review on stories I read. It gives me another view other than some people who read and review and only have favorites on their page, never ever written a story before.

I just think there are ways to get the point across and the information to ground someone and reel them back to reality. If you can word it to point out the flaws and try to give advice on how to fix it and grow, more people would be less likely to act like they can do what they want.

75 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2012-02-10 02:44 ID:vyF5y950

>>73 & >>74 - I'm one of the fanfic critics on the site. I'll admit some of my reviews don't come out the way I want them too. Having done critique for a long time now, I wonder if there really is a "nice" way to tell a person they need to work on their fanfic.

I think even the reviews that try to pad the "not so nice stuff" with something positive really aren't "nice" reviews. At least not in the mind of a twelve to fourteen year old who thinks anything negative said to them is someone being "mean and spiteful".

The way I look at it is, while it is true that the stuff I've felt I needed to say isn't "nice things to hear", I do think that being told the truth is "kindness and not meanness" on the part of the reviewer.

76 Name: Lauren : 2012-02-11 15:00 ID:fEXoa0OH

>>75 You have a point about the young teens.
I do agree that it's hard but my thought is it shouldn't be "your story is horrible and atrocious." "stop writing" that sort of things. My opinion it should be something like "the story needs some work. Here is what I found that I think you should work on..." The telling the person that there are mistakes and problems but helping them to fix it. If that makes any sense the way I explained it.

77 Name: Bobo-is-tha-bomb : 2012-02-15 14:23 ID:v+7cUa1n

I'm fine with people giving good criticism, because it makes you write better stories. What I don't like about groups as citics united is the reporting thing. This whole ratting each other out policy is just mean.

It's part of the reason why I nowadays focus more on archives like Lunaescence and JamlyFics. There, the moderators check every story and chapter for grammar and they kindly tell you if you break any rules, or if your story need adjustments to the spelling and grammar.

So yeah... I really think it's up to the moderators of ff.net to tell people that they're breaking the rules and not to other authors and readers on the site.

78 Name: Marth : 2012-02-16 16:54 ID:N4n5Khu1

>>77 The sheer volume of stories posted on FFN everyday makes having a mod check over every one of them an impractical solution there, even though it works great for small archives. Judging by the speed at which abuse reports are handled, if FFN implemented a "mods check every story before it's posted" model, it would take at least a couple weeks for a submitted story to show up on the site.

Nonetheless, the moderators ARE the ones who have the power to enforce the rules. Abuse reports bring potential violations to their attention, but an actual mod has to say, "Yeah, this story is breaking the rules" and delete it. I've definitely had people threaten to report me for personal reasons (rather than anything having to do with the content of a story), and if they did, nothing ever came of it, because reported fics aren't automatically deleted.

And no, reporting stories that break the rules isn't mean. Not following the rules is disrespectful toward the site and toward one's fellow authors. Let's not shift the blame onto the people who're using the site as it's meant to be used, 'kay?

79 Name: Bobo-is-tha-bomb : 2012-02-17 02:12 ID:v+7cUa1n

I don't think that ff.net had intended for groups like this to form, but hey...

I was reported back in december for having a story up that had a script format. I used the script format on purpose to enhance the humoristic aspects of my story. Anyway, I took the story off, because I wasn't going to change anything about it. It's still up on a different archive and none bothered me about the format there.

I've had a very unpleasant run in with a girl from the LU a few years ago. In a review she claimed one of my stories was trash and she told me to remove it, otherwise she would keep on stalking me. So I reported her and she went and posted a very nasty comment about me on her profile. She then also claimed that she (and others) would keep on sending me hate mail until I removed my story. I reported her again and I've never heard of her since.

So, pardon me if I don't like groups like these...

80 Name: Marth : 2012-02-17 10:52 ID:N4n5Khu1

>>79 I just meant that the site intended for the reporting feature to be used to alert the mods to potential rules violations...like your script format story. The reason no one's bothered you about it on your other archive, I assume, is because it's not against that site's rules. It is against FFN's rules, so the person who reported it was doing the right thing. I was hesitant about calling your earlier post sour grapes, because I had no evidence that your dislike of reporting was personal, but yeah. Sour grapes.

I don't think you can blame the LU for your crazy stalker, though--at least, from the way you explain it, it sounds like she was the only one harassing you, and she just threatened to get the rest of the LU involved. My guess is that she would do crazy shit like that regardless of her involvement with any particular group. Do you know if she got kicked off the site (which it sounds like she deserved) or just left you alone from then on?

81 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2012-02-17 18:01 ID:vyF5y950

>>79 & >>80 - I agree with what Marth says about "the reason no one's bothered you about it" is because "it's not against the rules." I'd also like to point out that LU and CU are two separate groups and both have been trolled by people who pretend to be a member.

82 Name: Bobo-is-tha-bomb : 2012-02-18 05:57 ID:v+7cUa1n

The girl from the LU really was a member. I checked it when I reported her. She didn't get banned, which really surprised me because I wasn't the only person she stalked. She did remove the things she wrote about me from her profile, so I guess she did receive a warning.

But aside from that, I have never liked groups like these, even before I got reported. I've seen tons of fics (and enjoyed quite a few of them) that are against the rules and I never reported them. I guess it just goes against my nature. I never rat anyone out. Except when it's a clear case of plagiarism.

And I'm also wondering if groups like CU really work, because as you pointed out: the sheer volume of stories that get posted every day cannot be checked by the mods. But the CU cannot check every story as well, so there are always fics that are bound to slip past their notice.

83 Name: Marth : 2012-02-21 10:48 ID:N4n5Khu1

>>82 I didn't mean that she was or wasn't a member, just that not everything a LU member does is because the group tells her to do it. I mean, let's say theoretically that the LU kicked her out. Do you think she would stop being such a psycho? If no other members got involved, I would say that this isn't a case of the LU harassing so much as it is a case of one asshole harassing you.

Also, nirvana fallacy. Look it up.

84 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2012-02-21 21:28 ID:vyF5y950

>>82 - I speaking from my knowledge of how the CU works rather then the LU. The CU members stay pretty nice until someone turns into a fanbrat so to speak.

There was a time when I didn't report stories either, unless they were plagiarism. The fanfics I saw breaking the rules would only crop up once a week at most. It seems to have become more frequent over the last few years. I also noticed that a lot of these rule breaking fanfics were getting more positive attention then fanfics that people worked had on obeying the rules on.

Not to mention the fact there are reasons to reports stuff beyond just plagiarism issues.

RPF involving famous people infringes upon their rights to privacy and some of these stories could be brought to court as being slanderous and harmful to the famous persons reputation and the fact is fiction will only fuel the case against people.
RPF self-inserts run the risk of revealing vital information about the author to an online stalker, not to mention RPF self-inserts tend to be “Mary Sued” versions of themselves so the writer runs the risk of calling the people who critique for “Mary Sue” issues “bullies” because the character is the writer.
Songs not in the public domain used in fanfiction is a copyright infringement, which is right up there with plagiarism, PARTICULARLY when the song fic is comprised mostly of the song rather then the writers own words and then they are a form of plagiarism.
Non-story content is spam on the site that takes up chances for the people posting legit fanfic to get noticed.
Interactive fanfic relates back to the RPF self-insert.
MA shouldn't be on this site. I'm not saying a teen under fifteen shouldn't read M or MA rated stuff. However, I will flat out say it isn't fair to a teenager expecting M rated stuff to suddenly find MA material.

This covers the basic rules. Grammar isn't an option for writing and if a person isn't willing to use it something is wrong. I'm going to say I would like script format to be allowed because I honestly see nothing wrong with script format. However, I will also say most people using it do it because they are lazy and/or they don't know how to properly use script format. The other issue comes basically from quality control. The site is free for us to use, why not obey the rules we agreed to obey in the first place as it isn't our site?

The CU's goal isn't to get rid of ALL the rule breaking fanfics either. They know they can't. They mostly work individually and being a part of the group serves two purposes. They've found that sometimes a second person telling a person that they are breaking the site rules makes some writers realize that the first person was telling them the truth. Group reporting is also good when it comes to dealing with fanfic writers who've made it clear they think they are above the rules and that an exception should basically be made for them. And yes... they have managed to get quite a few fanfics pulled from the site. They prefer it when an author pulls their own fanfic or edits it so it is rule compliant rather then having to report people.

>>83 – I think it was in reference to what I was saying more then what you were saying...

85 Name: CJH : 2012-04-10 05:18 ID:u1OMyuQG

If your group is suppose to give constructive criticsm, then why are people like bonus-kun jumping down our throats if we post something like a songfic? and on top of that, if songfics are against the rules, why are there fanfic categories of Cats, Wicked, Glee, Phantom of the Opera, which are all revolved around music?

If you guys don't like what we are writing, then go establish your own fanfic site and mind your own buisness.

Does this look like constructive criticsm to YOU?!?This is what I am talking about. It's a review for the fic don't laugh at me by arianna of combined beings.

Bonus Kun 2/23/12 ch1

Dear:

Clueless Newbie,

You are being reviewed because you broke the rules of the page.

To Repent, you must:

Fix this piece of boring shit and actually post something relevant. Which in this case means removing the song lyrics from the story.

In Closing, I'd Like to say:

Take your crap somewhere else and come back when you've learned how to respect the rules of this site.

Until then, I will report your story.

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\¸. BONUS KUN ,.,\

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Reviews are for constructive criticism, not bashing the author.

86 Name: Moonphase : 2012-04-13 12:58 ID:zMZLnrql

God, that's pretty horrible...

87 Name: Moonphase : 2012-04-13 12:58 ID:zMZLnrql

God, that's pretty horrible...

88 Name: Moonphase : 2012-04-13 12:59 ID:zMZLnrql

I've never been bothered by any of these groups, but I'm disturbed by what I've read so far. Why do we need groups like this; isn't it fanfic.nets job to keep an eye on what's being posted on to their site? I don't want some dickhead 14 year old taking out his issues on me because I've written something he doesn't like.

89 Name: Moonphase : 2012-04-13 13:00 ID:zMZLnrql

I've never been bothered by any of these groups, but I'm disturbed by what I've read so far. Why do we need groups like this; isn't it fanfic.nets job to keep an eye on what's being posted on to their site? I don't want some dickhead 14 year old taking out his issues on me because I've written something he doesn't like.

90 Name: Marth : 2012-04-17 10:38 ID:N4n5Khu1

>>85 Bonus-kun was being a jackass, but I gotta say your insanely fallacious argument about songfics makes me sympathize with xir somewhat. Songfics ARE against the rules, which you would know if you had ever read them, and saying that they should be allowed because fanfic has categories for musicals is like saying that script format should be allowed because movies have scripts.

Despite that, Bonus-kun should have asked you to take your songfic down much more politely. Being a shit to authors who are doing something wrong only encourages those authors to be shits in return.

91 Name: Marth : 2012-04-18 10:54 ID:N4n5Khu1

I just realized that my previous post sounded like I thought you were being a shit, CJH. That was not my intention. I think your argument for songfics in nonsense, but I don't think you reacted shittily to Bonus Kun's review. All I meant was that authors, in general, have a tendency to spaz out when criticism is phrased nastily.

92 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2012-04-18 17:28 ID:QtLykkto

>>85 - Sorry, but you missed the fact songfics are against site rules because they use song lyrics that are under copyrght. It is against the law to use copyrighted lyrics unless it is under fair use and fanfiction is not fair use.

>>88 - I'm not going to defend the review here but I am going to say it isn't possible for the site admins to police the site on their own. They need people to report rule breaking fanfics. If I broke a rule, I would rather get a warning rather then have it removed without me not knowing.

93 Name: Dramaaa : 2012-04-20 09:40 ID:VRZ2+gke

The again, Bonus Kun does state in his profile that he's an aggressive bastard when it comes to stories that are breaking the rules. So I don't know what you were expecting out of him.

I was actually flamed by him once and after talking to him I realized he's actually a decent guy behind the flamer act.

94 Name: Dave : 2012-06-13 16:16 ID:pzcy04u0

95 Name: Dave : 2012-06-13 16:16 ID:pzcy04u0

96 Name: Dave : 2012-06-13 16:16 ID:pzcy04u0

97 Name: moonphase : 2012-06-16 04:46 ID:vzEEmri+

>> 93, well she couldn't expect anything out of him as I doubt she read his profile page before he reviewed her work.

I've done some research into these guys, and reading the things they've written, they seem like bullies to me.

I agree that fanfic.net has a lot of bad fics, but I totally disagree with Critics United, I don't think they're the saviours they seem to think they are.

98 Name: Bola : 2012-06-16 05:54 ID:/PPGHxa6

I certainly agree with you, moonphase. Actually, their reviews could be reported for flaming in that way. That's not constructive criticism anymore, but bullying.

99 Name: DarkSacredJewelXoX : 2012-07-01 08:42 ID:Z8yiX4CV

Actually flaming isn't against the rules. That's why flamers like Flame Rising were never stopped. He quit on his own. You'd have to show some examples of bullying and flaming. A Flame is insulting the author without giving any assistance on how to fix the story. That isn't what CU does.

100 Name: Stranger : 2012-07-05 10:53 ID:5f9izozK

>>99: Your goal does not justify your methods, whether you like it or not. I have read what you post on your forum, and I must say, the first pages of your "Complain Threads" speaks for itself. When confronted with it, the only explanation you gave (I think it was Cha Aegis or you) is that those posts are two years old and that you don't review like this anymore. Fine, if you say so.

Now the condescending attitude that ALL and I really mean ALL (including your dear self) show when answering people on your threads doesn't sit well with me or anyone that reads what you post. Familiarity, sarcasm and arrogance is not something that can be tolerated when you try to have a civil conversation with someone. You try to anger people and when they don't bite in your bail and continue to point what's wrong with this group, you just ban them.

Should I add that a lot of your members seems to fail into simple comprehension of English, seeing how they give answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. That, or they're just plain stupid.

You also say that the "wave of heat" has faded. For sure, you've banned everybody that didn't agree with you, they can't post anymore, now can they? I don't think FF has a clear idea of what you people are doing, if they did, I don't think your movement would last long.

You're not responsible of the purge going on on the site, we got it. But you are the reason why a lot of good writers decide to leave FF. I hope you're aware of this.

Kindly.

101 Name: Stranger : 2012-07-05 10:53 ID:5f9izozK

>>99: Your goal does not justify your methods, whether you like it or not. I have read what you post on your forum, and I must say, the first pages of your "Complain Threads" speaks for itself. When confronted with it, the only explanation you gave (I think it was Cha Aegis or you) is that those posts are two years old and that you don't review like this anymore. Fine, if you say so.

Now the condescending attitude that ALL and I really mean ALL (including your dear self) show when answering people on your threads doesn't sit well with me or anyone that reads what you post. Familiarity, sarcasm and arrogance is not something that can be tolerated when you try to have a civil conversation with someone. You try to anger people and when they don't bite in your bail and continue to point what's wrong with this group, you just ban them.

Should I add that a lot of your members seems to fail into simple comprehension of English, seeing how they give answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. That, or they're just plain stupid.

You also say that the "wave of heat" has faded. For sure, you've banned everybody that didn't agree with you, they can't post anymore, now can they? I don't think FF has a clear idea of what you people are doing, if they did, I don't think your movement would last long.

You're not responsible of the purge going on on the site, we got it. But you are the reason why a lot of good writers decide to leave FF. I hope you're aware of this.

Kindly.

102 Name: Krout : 2012-07-05 11:52 ID:5f9izozK

>>99: Your goal does not justify your methods, whether you like it or not. I have read what you post on your forum, and I must say, the first pages of your "Complain Threads" speaks for itself. When confronted with it, the only explanation you gave (I think it was Cha Aegis or you) is that those posts are two years old and that you don't review like this anymore. Fine, if you say so.

Now the condescending attitude that ALL and I really mean ALL (including your dear self) show when answering people on your threads doesn't sit well with me or anyone that reads what you post. Familiarity, sarcasm and arrogance is not something that can be tolerated when you try to have a civil conversation with someone. You try to anger people and when they don't bite in your bail and continue to point what's wrong with this group, you just ban them.

Should I add that a lot of your members seems to fail into simple comprehension of English, seeing how they give answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. That, or they're just plain stupid.

You also say that the "wave of heat" has faded. For sure, you've banned everybody that didn't agree with you, they can't post anymore, now can they? I don't think FF has a clear idea of what you people are doing, if they did, I don't think your movement would last long.

You're not responsible of the purge going on on the site, we got it. But you are the reason why a lot of good writers decide to leave FF. I hope you're aware of this.

Kindly.

103 Name: Krout : 2012-07-05 11:53 ID:5f9izozK

>>99: Your goal does not justify your methods, whether you like it or not. I have read what you post on your forum, and I must say, the first pages of your "Complain Threads" speaks for itself. When confronted with it, the only explanation you gave (I think it was Cha Aegis or you) is that those posts are two years old and that you don't review like this anymore. Fine, if you say so.

Now the condescending attitude that ALL and I really mean ALL (including your dear self) show when answering people on your threads doesn't sit well with me or anyone that reads what you post. Familiarity, sarcasm and arrogance is not something that can be tolerated when you try to have a civil conversation with someone. You try to anger people and when they don't bite in your bail and continue to point what's wrong with this group, you just ban them.

Should I add that a lot of your members seems to fail into simple comprehension of English, seeing how they give answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. That, or they're just plain stupid.

You also say that the "wave of heat" has faded. For sure, you've banned everybody that didn't agree with you, they can't post anymore, now can they? I don't think FF has a clear idea of what you people are doing, if they did, I don't think your movement would last long.

You're not responsible of the purge going on on the site, we got it. But you are the reason why a lot of good writers decide to leave FF. I hope you're aware of this.

Kindly.

104 Name: Krout : 2012-07-05 11:54 ID:5f9izozK

>>99: Your goal does not justify your methods, whether you like it or not. I have read what you post on your forum, and I must say, the first pages of your "Complain Threads" speaks for itself. When confronted with it, the only explanation you gave (I think it was Cha Aegis or you) is that those posts are two years old and that you don't review like this anymore. Fine, if you say so. The condescending attitude that ALL and I really mean ALL (including your dear self) show when answering people on your threads doesn't sit well with me or anyone that reads what you post. Familiarity, sarcasm and arrogance is not something that can be tolerated when you try to have a civil conversation with someone. Should I add that a lot of your members seems to fail into simple comprehension of English, seeing how they give answers that have absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. That, or they're just plain stupid.You also say that the "wave of heat" has faded. For sure, you've banned everybody that didn't agree with you, they can't post anymore, now can they? I don't think FF has a clear idea of what you people are doing, if they did, I don't think your movement would last long.You're not responsible of the purge going on on the site, we got it. But you are the reason why a lot of good writers decide to leave FF. I hope you're aware of this.

Kindly.

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