Fan Comics and You (13)

1 Name: chellusauglerie : 2010-09-06 15:36 ID:ZJ51tPRJ

HEy guys... you know how you are always looking for that nice little fan-fiction and can never find it? I mean, there are a lot of us who only write fan-fiction, but we can't forget the fans who also put pictures to those fics! The average fan-comic is surely rendered with love and tenderness by all of you comic geniuses out there!

Let's hear it for all of them!

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I hear those crickets, people. You know who you are, you naughty cricket-releasers, you.

But seriously guys, how are we going to get the word across about this very viable, ultimately marketable sibling to fic if we do nothing? Please, please, don't forget those of our number who dutifully and lovingly create comic for us. They deserve some recognition too.

Here, a few questions for you:

Who here has read a great fan comic?
Who here has tried to find said fan-comic again, only to end in the mire of hell that is the internet backwater?

All of us, that's who! Or at least some.

And that some want their fan comics to get more recognition.
Many of us as you know are working to increase that number, because fan comics deserve just as much respect and hype as the fics themselves, if not more so, because they tell a story and show with lovely -or not so lovely- pictures what may never have been able to have been shown with words alone, those moments that we keep needing to see in the canon but that never happen; those moments that leave us wondering, well what now? You know, that picosecond of time when we get done with the show or the book or the whathaveyou and we go, what the? BUT I WANT TO KNOW MORE!!!!

Yeah. Those moments. So hey guys, before I drown you all in sarcastic pitch speech nonsense, please, just... consider what I;'m saying here. Go out there and drum up some love for the other half. Just do it. Talk about it with your friends! Create new converts among your loyal minions! Go out there and perk interest in fan comic about your favorite fanfiction genre! Encourage the medium, and it will grow, and support the fan base.

In other words, sometimes writing alone just can't answer the call to arms. And now that I've finished nagging my fellow masses, it's time for me to depart with a few words of wisdom:

Ex nihil nihilo fit.

'nothing comes from nothing'. So please, please, get out there and promote the sweetness that is Fan Comic! Or even make some of your own, just keep creating!

2 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-09-06 21:49 ID:gLN1Xap5

I don't know how "fan-comics" work for western media, but Doujinshi in Japan are being published and and there are a lot of mangaka who made a name from doujinshi and then made their own works.

3 Name: Anonymous : 2010-09-06 22:39 ID:VOwNaHTY

>>2
When it comes with 同人 (doujin) works, it is not just limited to 同人誌 (doujinshi). There are also 同人ソフト (doujin soft), 同人ゲーム (doujin game, a part of doujin soft) and 同人音楽 (doujin ongaku, doujin music) as well. MADムービー (mad movie) and flash (i. e. swf files) are related concepts. The meaning has expanded to mean anything that is non-commercial. However, it is different from "indie work."

Here is the Japanese Wikipedia page for 同人:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%90%8C%E4%BA%BA

The sections read as follows:

文芸の同人 (bungei no doujin - doujin of literature, the oldest form of doujin, having existed in Japan for over 100 years, but this is not to be confused with fanfiction, since these were actually more like literary circles who did original work, publishing independent magazines.)

漫画の同人 (manga no doujin - doujin of comics, which is relatively recent since it existed only since World War II. From Comic Market's information website, most such doujin were actually original works at first)

現在の同人 (genzai no doujin - current doujin. Current doujin is not restricted to comics at all, actually)

「商業以外は同人」論の台頭と問題 ("syougyou igai ha doujin" ron no taitou to mondai - "everything outside of commerce is doujin" proposition's prominence and question. The word "doujin" has broadened in its meaning drastically over the years, that it now covers a whole variety of activities, that perhaps anything non-commercial can now be considered doujin.)

「プロ同人」(プロの同人作家) ("pro doujin" (pro's doujin author). While it is true that some doujin authors do make money, the word 赤字 is more common. "Pro doujin" is very rare, and is not what doujin is primarily about. However, it is true that there is such a thing as pro doujin, despite its rarity.)

「プロ同人」 has four subsections:

-概念 - ("gainen" - general concept)

-登場の経緯 ("toujou no keii" - how it started)

-相違点 ("souiten" - difference. i. e. difference with actual commercial works)

-商業誌に対するスタンス ("jougyoushi ni taisuru stance" - opposite stance in commercal magazines. Are those pro-doujin actually doujin?)

Also, it is interesting to note the Japanese Wikipedia page for 同人音楽 (doujin music, doujin ongaku):

It has a section called 「インディーズ音楽との相違」. Japanese people call indie music "indi-zu ongaku." Apparently, indie music and doujin music are not the same thing. This section talks about the difference between indie music and doujin music. The most important differences are probably the ties with the doujin community, as well as the "self-made" aspect, which is not necessarily the case with indies music.

4 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-09-06 23:35 ID:gLN1Xap5

>>4 and you are telling me all these because??

5 Name: Anonymous : 2010-09-07 00:02 ID:VOwNaHTY

>>4
No reason. Just wanted to put that information out there.

6 Name: Anonymous : 2010-09-07 00:03 ID:VOwNaHTY

>>4
No reason. Just wanted to put that information out there.

7 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-09-07 00:09 ID:gLN1Xap5

shakes head ....

8 Name: Anonymous : 2010-09-07 08:37 ID:7bwUFydt

Dey showin' off sum mad copypasta skillz!

9 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-09-09 23:58 ID:EHLyl7fK

Finding good fancomics are hard though... sigh

10 Name: ChellusAuglerie : 2010-09-20 17:05 ID:1dcgSOgA

Yes, exactly, Yemi~

Finding good fancomics is HARD. If we band together and coalesce all our fanfiction experiences past, present and hopeful future into one ball of Nom nom, we can expect great things. WE must MOBILIZE!!!! ORGANIZE!!!! YEAHHHHHHH!! GEt out there and connect the dots, people! MOVE MOVE MOVE!!!

11 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-09-22 00:59 ID:EHLyl7fK

>>10 - I may try making one. But about what? That is actually the question isn't it?

12 Name: Yemi Hikari : 2010-09-22 01:00 ID:EHLyl7fK

>>10 - I may try making one. But about what? That is actually the question isn't it?

13 Name: Slainteru : 2010-11-18 09:09 ID:8kC0d5g+

I'm all for making more fan-comics! YUS.
Actually, I got a message about this on my fanfiction account, so I'm super-new but all for more of the illustrated fandom.

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