Mary Sue Experiment (19)

1 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-12 11:33 ID:XH9DTqJD

I've recently started working on a fic reviving an old OC of mine, a Mary Sue called Ryu. At the time he first appeared I didn't see anything wrong with him, but later I realized how horrible it was and I axed the fics he appeared in.

Now, though, I'm writing a story from this character's perspective. I'm writing a story as a Mary Sue. It's wildly exaggerated and I'm taking a lot of liberties with established canon. Purists will cringe upon seeing it. Don't get me wrong, I loathe Mary Sues and OOC characters and aside from fics labeled as 'The Mary Sue Experiment' I will write normally, but sometimes I like to play God.

What's your take on purposefully writing a Mary Sue fic?

2 Name: Marth : 2010-06-12 12:01 ID:OEpZCibf

Writing one purposefully doesn't exempt you from criticism if you post it where other people can see it. Be aware of that.

3 Name: moonphase : 2010-06-12 13:30 ID:LsSt1QaE

What is it experimenting?

4 Name: TV Geek : 2010-06-12 15:38 ID:uToqezZs

While I have to agree with Marth, and mostly because she (assuming the profile that her name links to is in fact hers and accurate, apologies if I'm wrong) is very right, I also believe that with the right approach, and the right level of writing skill, anything in the realm of fiction is possible. (Was that last part an oxymoron?)

If you think you have a viable idea, and the ability to do it justice, then go for it. However, I must say that you should be prepared for any possible response. Especially considering the rather deserved reputation that Mary Sue has among the fandom community.

5 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-13 06:56 ID:XH9DTqJD

It's an experiment in the sense that I want to see how people will react to it. It's nothing but mindless self-indulgence on my part, and to be perfectly fair I don't know when, if ever, I'll post this fic.

6 Name: slashfilled-mind : 2010-06-14 06:11 ID:v2JieTF1

It sounds interesting, if only because you fully realise how horrible Mary-Sue's are and ar ewriting to experiment with that. But are you doing it just for your own fun, or making it pure crack?
besides, if you wanna mess with Mary-Sue's, you could allways go on the My Immortal tour. XD

7 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-14 09:14 ID:XH9DTqJD

On one hand, it's just fun, not in the least because some people will cry bloody murder even if they know someone's taking the piss.

On the other, I genuinely want to see if a Mary Sue, who is pretty much God, can be the main character of a decent story. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going for an intricate plot, mainly just sightseeing through the universes, in this case Pokemon.

What exactly is My Immortal, other than a song by Evanescence?:P

8 Name: moonphase : 2010-06-14 11:50 ID:LsSt1QaE

9 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-14 13:45 ID:XH9DTqJD

Oh dear God. Please tell me that is intentional. If not, it's worse than what even I did back when I was fourteen. I think I got scarred for life. My experiment is shit, but this...

10 Name: Wraith Fan : 2010-06-16 10:48 ID:Tr5BoFsG

I think inventing new characters and introducing them in an existing story is very interesting and it offers a whole new point-of-view and perspective! But yeah, these characters need to be actual characters and not just 'a veeery predictable guy'! Introducing new characters just for the sake of introducing new characters should be avoided I think.

Greetz: Wraith Fan -xXx-

11 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-16 12:52 ID:XH9DTqJD

Well, I introduce OCs all the time. This time, though, I'm actually making that OC a human god to see if such a character could be at all interesting.

12 Name: Marth : 2010-06-16 14:18 ID:OEpZCibf

I think that trolling and making a legitimately interesting character with Sue traits are probably mutually exclusive goals. Both honorable goals, don't get me wrong, but I don't think you'll be able to make a parody Sue and a good character.

13 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-16 14:43 ID:XH9DTqJD

I know, but that's why it's an experiment. I'll probably fail horribly, but at least I'll get some fun while I'm doing it. I just hope some people will ignore my half-page explanation of what the hell I'm doing.

Besides, I'm not going for a really gripping character, just a somewhat interesting story. It's impossible given the rules I have imposed on myself, but there are always dolts who will like anything...

14 Name: Iaculus : 2010-06-16 17:36 ID:aRsQmZxw

Writing a good story involving a god or similarly powerful being is quite possible, particularly since godlike power does not conveniently erase one's flaws or virtues. Writing a good story involving a Sue is less so, given that Sues are defined by breaking willing suspension of disbelief and draining all meaningful conflict from a story.

If, on the other hand, you just want to blow off some steam with some over-the-top escapism, the key is to keep the spectacular... spectacular. Don't be predictable, and don't be tempted to escalate too quickly or too steadily. Even assassination by watermelon can get boring after the first dozen or so times, and remember that a knife-fight in a grubby back-alley can get a reader's adrenaline pumping more than blowing up a sun. Alternatively, just keep it short and sweet and don't let it outstay its welcome.

15 Name: KatonRyu : 2010-06-16 22:03 ID:XH9DTqJD

I'm not sure what direction I'm heading in, plotwise. At least, not yet. I might very well end up canning the whole thing after a while, once my childishness has run out, not in the least because I have a bunch of genuine fics planned as well.

16 Name: Kaimaler : 2010-07-03 08:12 ID:RjMUlQOY

Mary-Sue's are the guilty pleasure of all readers and authors.
They are generally easier to write and are insanely fun.

I wrote a Mary-Sue once or twice before, I found the reviewers come out of the dark then. And so do flamers.
It was a blast, I've never had so much fun before writing it was worth whatever horrible thing a flamer said because of the amount of good praise from the other reviewers.

Purposefully writing Mary-Sue's are giving yourself as an author a break, a usually well desereved and understanding break. Authors need to relax once and a while, read Mary-Sue's, enjoy them for what they are.
You can't create a character directed at not being a Mary-Sue if you never read the stories yourself.

I admit, I read them, enjoy them like any other giddy reader, but I also use them as a learning device, studying them makes an author better I believe.

Go ahead, knock yourself out and have fun! There's nothing that can go wrong when writing a Mary-Sue.

17 Name: ... : 2010-07-03 09:09 ID:S49jD5l/

That's the problem.

18 Name: moonphase : 2010-07-03 13:20 ID:MDk/0efV

I don't enjoy reading mary Sues at all. I've never even tried to write one.

19 Name: Oreramar : 2010-07-07 14:34 ID:uC61gZWy

Writing it? That's fine. As long as nobody else reads it, it's just like keeping a permanent form of your private imagination about for kicks and giggles.
Posting it online for others to read? If it were me and if it were a serious Self-Insert styled Sue, I probably wouldn't. You could if you like, but make sure to give plenty of warning - some of us come dangerously close to spontaneous combustion upon reading too much Sueishness, even if the author doesn't seriously believe that her original character is the best thing since butter on sliced bread.

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