Don't you just hate those who read your fanfics only to complain about them? (116)

1 Name: Darkangelsmind : 2009-11-13 10:19 ID:2anldKPq

if they haven't enjoyed your story, why review it and say how much they hate you?? doh!

2 Name: JayLewis : 2009-11-13 10:25 ID:ZKD1C3Fr

Yes! I enjoy constructive criticism - my favourite frequent reviewer is someone who nitpicks, and it's great because she tells me exactly what isn't right and I can fix it/work on it. BUT! I hate, hate, hate people who just complain about stupid things! I get this a lot too, like "why did you pair X with Y? they would never be together" - and my fic is a romance for X and Y, says so in the description, so why is that person reading and complaining?! I gave fair warning!

3 Name: Darkangelsmind : 2009-11-13 10:28 ID:2anldKPq

Exactaly! i've had, "omg how dare you kill that character off!" lol well excuse me for writing fan-fic the way i want! haha ee some people! The summary is quite clearly marked character death - because it isn't the character you want doesn't mean you have to take a hissy fit! Jeez!

4 Name: JayLewis : 2009-11-13 10:41 ID:ZKD1C3Fr

Yes, I've had that too! I killed a character, and someone who hadn't reviewed the whole story popped up for that one chapter and just said "dude that was so lame and f'd up to kill X like that" and in another story I saved a character at the very last minute, and I got the same person saying "this would have been more realistic if X had died"!

Can't win!

5 Name: Rachel Cabbit : 2009-11-13 10:44 ID:we/qRUCv

I agree with JayLewis.
ConCrit is awesome. It is what every writer needs.

What I don't like is when you try and concrit a story and the author takes offense and hatemails you.
I sometimes read fanfiction with really bad grammar and spelling and when I try and correct them (in a friendly way, because I hate being nasty and having people hate me) they usually go all defensive and angry at me.
I've stopped reading fics that have bad spelling/grammar errors in their summaries now so I am not tempted to concrit them. Don't like offending people.
Though there are rules on ff.net saying fics with really bad spelling and grammar are not allowed as you are supposed to check them before you upload them.

Anyways, I don't like the people who read and review a story just to bitch about characters and pairings.

6 Name: Darkangelsmind : 2009-11-13 10:45 ID:2anldKPq

EE i know! At the end of the day you write because you want to :) not to please douche-bags and do what they say!

7 Name: Darkangelsmind : 2009-11-13 10:48 ID:2anldKPq

Totally agree with you Rachel :) I'm alot like you, i don't want to upset people. so much that i have deleted storys in the past but now i just ignore or delete nasty comments. I'm all for helpful critisism but sometimes people go over the line of "helpfulness"

8 Name: bioldrawings : 2009-11-13 11:03 ID:rEtpoem+

Agrees to pretty much everything said here so far. I've read stories with poor grammar or spelling and pointed it out, and I've pointed out where a sentence or parargraph got a little jumbled and came out wrong, and I think that kind of stuff is concrit, it does help.

Of course I've read stories where the author goes somewhere I don't like, or has a pairing I think is kinda eew, but moaning just 'cause the author wrote a story with plot points I don't like is just stupid, who died and made me the guardian of all fanfic plot?

Seriously, different people write different stuff. Why is it so hard for some people to deal with that?

9 Name: tiger002 : 2009-11-13 22:26 ID:l96Y0UsP

I'm willing to critique people if I see something wrong. After all, we want to continue improving, right? In my main fic, I've killed off several characters, but I started of the story that way, so it wasn't like everything was perfect, and bam, they die. If a reader doesn't like the way it happened, because it seemed unrealistic that's fine, but if it's because of the fact they died, then there comment shall be ignored.

10 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-11-13 23:45 ID:5ulAaOVw

i think im into an angelic fandom :P
i really dont see flames.
i have seen though few here and there

what i dont like in a critic is for the reviewer going on and on about how bad the fic is and in the end tells me that "i didnt even spent my time to finish it" well hello maybe the plot twist you wanted was in the end and all, but you let the story in the middle.

i got a review like that for one of my first stories. i admit it was not well written because of my inexperienced writing skills.
the story was based on the PLOT of a VideoClip that i said it at the summary AND Author Note in the beginning.
and the reviewer was telling that the plot was going on and on and on.

also at a last note the easiest thing is to criticize.
i think everywriter [who is not a troll] take their time and put a real effort into what they write, so bashing around counting how many misspelled words they have-
[and im not talking about stories that the author didnt run a spell check at all, im talking about a couple of typos that the spellchecker didnt mark red, and basically for a very small amount of mistakes]-
shows the writer that the reviews didnt even care about the plot, so it is a huge turn off.

11 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-11-14 05:52 ID:K0izLp1S

>>11 you can call me SeraEris :P

12 Name: Nefertel : 2009-11-14 08:56 ID:BFwtNbxw

yeah i had that with my first 2 stories, this person was telling me how 2 write my story and then they would do the how can u do this, do it like this.

my sisters are the worse they will read my stories and then start saying u better not do this and u better not do that.

i mean it's my story if i wanna do the characters a certain way i will

13 Name: elecktrum : 2009-11-14 10:55 ID:KvqEaf6s

It drives me insane when people try to tell me how to write or what I should do with my story or characters. If they're so chock full of ideas, they can write their own bloody fic. Also, everything I do in a story is very deliberate and serves a purpose, even if I'm just setting myself up for future stories. When people complain that I haven't followed through with all the questions in my stories, I always want to ask them if their lives are so neat and orderly that every little loose thread is tied up by the end of the day.

14 Name: BettieMac : 2009-11-14 11:22 ID:9Zi0kWnP

I know! I cant stand those people!
Constructive criticism is one thing. Being rather insanely annoying is another. What ESPECIALLY annoys me is when people tell me to check my grammar and spelling (which, in this instance, was fine) and then have spelling mistakes in the message.
My story! Hands off!

15 Name: Marth : 2009-11-15 12:51 ID:0Bwkr1GD

The ONLY time I think it's legitimate to completely write off a non-flame review is if (a) they're wrong about some objective mechanical thing (such as spelling) or (b) if they're only reviewing to complain about the character/pairing/genre/whatever. Otherwise, if they, say, don't like where your (universal "you" here) plot is going, they're perfectly entitled to their opinion and to share that opinion. You don't have to change anything to suit them, but they're not jerks for not liking your story.

16 Name: elecktrum : 2009-11-16 05:43 ID:KvqEaf6s

Voicing an opinion is one thing and always welcome, be the opinion positive or negative. A well-written opinion can and has changed the course of some of my stories. Having a person actually dicatate to you what they think should or should have happened or make demands to satisfy what they want to see is alltogether different. Yes, it's easy to ignore such reviews, but that doesn't make them any less annoying.

17 Name: Bright Yellow Bumblebee : 2009-11-16 09:42 ID:lGKegeFR

My favourite ones are:

1) Completely disregarding the summary stating that the fic is a particular pairing or a death fic or something and then complaining about it.

2) Correcting me on my spelling. My profile clearly states that I am English but when I get someone telling me that I've spelt colour or realise wrongly and suggesting the American spelling as correct, it really bugs me.

3)Leaving a review after EVERY chapter about how much they disliked it. If they hated it that much, why are they always the first to review when the new chapter comes out, only to flame it again?

I appreciate concrit as much as the next author but for someone to completely disregard summaries and statements that say I'm English makes me wonder if they are truly reading the fic well enough to comment upon it

18 Name: Colinamilly : 2009-11-18 11:37 ID:jNgRybgx

how about those who read the first chapter and say something like, it's choppy, and not many thing are explained. duh! it an introductory chapter, its not meant to give you all the details of the story. i understand that they may think its a one shot but, its annoying if the status is, in progress and you havent put, the end. but they still give a review that would be suitable if put at the very end of the story, not chapter. sigh.

19 Name: ItachisPurpleChakra : 2009-11-21 06:36 ID:Bh+XJZPP

what really annoyed me is:
I got flamed by someone named 'Billy'.
This is the review he wrote:
'Everybody: Are all DNAngel fans such miserable sobs that they have to bash one character after another in things like this (including the hosts of said fic)? Does it somehow make themselves feel better about their miserable hater lives? I'd like all of your input on this question because they're obviously all mutilating your characters into disrespectful mincemeat. Yukiru'd shake her head and never update the manga again if she saw...

Billy'

that annoyed me.
Then, the next chapter, I got another flame by the SAME person.
'"Good" crack? LMAO! No it's not. It's just another excuse to bash the characters. Like that one guy with Satoshi. Or all the usual suspects with their incessant and boring Risa bashing that's not funny or ingenious at all. And the incessant yaoi stuff that's neither here nor there, again perpetuated by the same bunch of people who can't accept the original manga the way it is supposed to be taken. And more and more other such things that are passed off as funny in the minds of the adolescent morons who engage in this behaviour. Sorry, all you do is make yourselves look bad, and are rotting this fandom to the core.

Not to mention, giving one-liner answers to the questions is lazy and uncreative. This could actually be a good fic, but all the haters are making it yet again one of those infuriating pieces of drivel that should just disappear since so many people can't seem to drag their heads out of their proverbial butts. No balance. No wittiness. And plagued by a bunch of losers who are annoying and not funny in the slightest. Either change your attitude, or let this fic die. Sorry if the truth hurts, but if you don't want it, then don't make yourself liable to being called out to pay your dues.

BTW, I'm not even a signed up member here, so no "signed in" reviews.

Oh, yeah and Dark: Vol.11 You were pretty hot for Risa there, so boohoo writers of this fic! And Satoshi too in Vol.13. Hahaa. Sometimes canon's a bitch, ain't it?

Billy'

it said on the summary that it was crack.
if anyone's been flamed twice or more by the same person you'll understand how utterly INFURIATING it is.
-xLH

20 Name: Marth : 2009-11-21 09:12 ID:0Bwkr1GD

@ItachisPurpleChakra: Well, did your fic actually have character bashing like Billy suggested? Because if it did, and it was some sort of stupid "Ask the characters questions!" non-fic, Billy was actually much politer than I would have been.

21 Name: madelinesticks : 2009-11-21 10:01 ID:H61WvR1n

It's so annoying when people have a go at your writing. On of my stories, which I wrote when I was really young, got put on this thing called potter sues, where basically a woman who thinks she better than everyone else insults them and their story in every possible way. It's horrible!

22 Name: DragonFriend95 : 2009-11-21 10:47 ID:eY+nK0fY

I haven't had a flame yet, thank goodness, but I've seen the flames to other people's reviews, and it's ridiculous. I'm all up for getting ideas from reviewees, and I have taken suggestions and wrote them into my fics, but I don't want someone telling me how EXACTLY I should write my story. And there are people flaming others for their spelling, even when the writer has said their spelling is bad/ English isn't their first language/ their story is unbeta'd. And when I looked up the flamers story, they couldn't spell either, which is plain hypocritical. Okay, rant over, continue.

23 Name: kleemoon : 2009-11-22 13:29 ID:DIOS0oEG

I really don't understand when people say things like "Out of Character" or "that character just would not do that" on my RPS stuff - I write fiction that is loosely based on real people - the key word being Fiction. And on my historical fanfics - "it never happened that way" or "he would never give up his throne, wife, lover, whatever" - again, fiction ... hello.

24 Name: Marth : 2009-11-22 14:07 ID:0Bwkr1GD

@kleemoon: I think that fiction being OOC is a perfectly legitimate complaint. Yes, what we write isn't canon, but if a writer ignores the characters' (or people's, in the case of RPF/RPS) canon attitudes, behaviors, beliefs, etc., then reviewers have every right to call that author out on it. That said, a lot of what makes a fanfic more or less OOC is how well the change in the character is explained. If a writer wants to make a big change in the way a character thinks or acts, it had better seem natural and realistic rather than out-of-nowhere or for no reason than to make the character fit a plot role.

To make up a pretty cliche example, let's say there's a character, we'll call him Adam, who's a pervert and a player. If someone decided to make him a faithful, respectful boyfriend just because she wanted to have him hook up with Betty, I would call the author out on that (assuming no explanation for the change of behavior was given). If, however, Adam started to realize that women hate him because of his lewd behavior and made an effort to change it over the course of a fic, it would be perfectly reasonable for him to end up faithful and respectful (and going out with Betty) by the end of the story.

25 Name: Iaculus : 2009-11-22 16:53 ID:m1yt8XSo

Bingo. Having a character act contrary to prior characterisation in the story without adequate explanation is bad writing, plain and simple.

26 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-11-23 13:12 ID:z5MTwWi8

i got my first flame in a long time

here is the review from an anonymous of course
"you've got to be ** me. this story is just getting way too cheesy and whats up with Haruka crying in every chapter?? like come on seriously author, i know she got rapped and all but facking hell man it's Haruka for crying out loud. Haruka DOESN'T cry and if she does it sure as hell isn't as much as u make it out to be. Gee wiz!

other than that, its a col story. XD"

Story: Haruka no Pinchi
it is about haruka being raped and going through a lot like STDs and pregnancy
review at the 6th chapter which is called "Depression"
at this chapter haruka except of crying she also slash her wrists when she takes a pregnancy test which is positive.

the reviewer complains about how i have pictured the character
Well sorry that i see Haruka as an emotional person and not as cold heart-ed as they want her to be. and Haruka did cry in the Anime.

and their last line about "the story being cool" i just think she way too hypocritical!

27 Name: Iaculus : 2009-11-23 13:43 ID:m1yt8XSo

Whilst that's a dodgy-as-hell complaint, note that different people react to severe emotional trauma in different ways. Some break down and cry, some fly off the handle at the slightest provocation, and some simply retreat into themselves. It's not a matter of cold-heartedness, just different defence mechanisms for the same thing.

In Haruka's case, she might end up desperately clinging to her tough-girl persona, using it as a source of protection and comfort whilst trying to hide what she's going through from everyone else. The weepy breakdowns might be very occasional things, triggered by the strangest little occurences - a dress in a particular shade of red in a shop window, a particular pattern of cobblestone - you get the idea. She might even try to laugh it off, commenting on how silly it is that she, of all people, should be breaking down over a little thing like this, whilst still not being able to stop it in any way whatsoever.

Like I said, having someone dissolve into an all-sobbing, all-the-time wreck is not the only way to show that they are hurting very, very badly. Consider, for instance, a certain female character from a certain recent science-fiction show we shall not mention, who was, after a particular point, happy, smiling, cheerful, and a general ray of sunshine in the middle of a very bleak situation... right until she happily, smilingly, and cheerfully blew her own brains out.

Gods, giving writers advice on how best to torture their characters always makes me feel so dirty.

28 Name: Indigo : 2009-11-23 17:45 ID:0TsWN8pd

This comment is related to posts 20 and 21, but not a direct reply to them, this "Billy" may or may not have had some valid points in his flame, but going off on a rant like that just makes people, generally, as based on those I have encountered, not want to listen to what you say.

And the "Ask Character Questions" thing? Personally I'm not a fan, so I don't read it. But other people do like it. And those people have a right to write it, read it and praise it.

If you don't like a fic, no one is asking you to review it, or even finish reading. It's your own choice. One of the things that makes me more sympathetic towards ItachisPurpleChakra, is that this Billy came back. Why, if he detested the fic so much?

And I'm sorry to be blunt, but it's unfair to be rude to people just because you think what they're doing is stupid. Maybe you've tried making your point clearly and politely, and you're resorting to blunter language to try and make an impact. But no matter the circumstance, it doesn't hurt to be polite, or just to turn a blind eye.

I'm aware that this is my own point of view, but personally I think if you're just trying to be helpful, as long as it's phrased in a kind, polite way the writer should have no reason to complain.

This may be just me, but when I receive a critical review, and I do have a specific reviewer who has reviewed me critically, if it's an abusive review I think: I don't want to listen to this. However that person whom I mentioned previously is always clear, direct and polite, so I always take their suggestions on board, that doesn't mean I agree, sometimes I honestly don't know why they thought that, but they're giving me their opinion on how I can improve and I find that encouraging, that they think my writing is worth improving.

I may actually be being hypocritical here, because although I was just trying to make a clear and developed point, but reading it through it seems a little like I'm ranting; so that may be a circumstance in which people "rant" at you. I haven't gone back and changed things for two reasons, firstly I really do think that was all necessary point development, and secondly to show how easily one can fall into the trap of "ranting."

29 Name: Bite Me Jasper Cullen : 2009-11-27 15:32 ID:RUXK+Orn

I hate people who read a whole story (not just a bit of a story, the whole thing) and then write a review about how dreadful it is, well if it was that bad why did they read the whole thing?

30 Name: Marth : 2009-11-27 20:33 ID:RzakbnOt

It's generally considered impolite to negatively review a story you haven't read at least a full chapter of, and there is always the hope that the writer will get better by the end of the story.

Besides, if you admit to not reading all the way to the end, the fannit will rejoin, "You don't know anything!1!! You didn't read the whole thing!!eleventy!!!" Not might. WILL.

31 Name: Indie : 2009-12-07 08:56 ID:WfRWPuIW

I've written a couple of reviews that bitch a bit, but thats part of 'worst finfics' thread, i have a policy of getting to paragraph 3 and if i can't stand it any longer i tell them that it was boring/maddening/insulting to call it writing or whatever, but i do hate when ppl just write a review saying 'the whole was shit, like, all of it' i usually reply asking 'well start with what you hated most about it - if you're going to bitch, be useful'

LOL i got this absolute rant once on my Underworld fic, he writes underworld too and portrays Selene very differently to me, and he really complained that i showed Michael and Selene having trouble adjusting to each other when he was writing things like "She looked adoringly into his soft, denim-blue eyes and smiled lovingly"... oh dear, I think he might be autistic, he got very upset! TBH i couldn't imagine strong women figures like Selene allowing their new boyfriend to sweep them off their feet in the middle of a mission (which they conveniently don't even get a scratch in, pahahaha!)

BTW "Bite Me Jasper Cullen" ha!!! Love the name!!

32 Name: Zaku-118 : 2009-12-07 09:20 ID:Yqty0xI7

Generally i don't mind if people complain about my stories so long as they tell me what it is they don't like about them or how i could improve them.
I REALLY hate it when people just say something like "this story sucks caus it's gay" A STORY HAS NO GENDER

I also belive that you should read a chapter before deciding if a story is bad or not. Hell i've read a few stories that started of terrible but turned out to be really good.

The people that really annoy me are the people who look up stories they know they won't like just to complain about them. For example somebody reads a doctor who story only to say "Doctor who sucks" why were you reading a doctor who story if you hate the show?

33 Name: Anonymous : 2009-12-07 10:55 ID:4JCDxqBj

i go on fanfics to complain, it is fun

34 Name: Marth : 2009-12-07 11:00 ID:0Bwkr1GD

>>32 How is reading three paragraphs and then calling a story an insult to the language a more helpful review than saying that the whole thing was crap? Those seem like very similar reviews to me, though someone who says the whole thing sucks might have actually bothered to read the whole thing.

>>33 A story's lack of gender should NOT be the disconcerting thing about that comment. What about, say, the homophobia inherent in using "gay" as a pejorative?

I do agree with your latter point, though, with one exception. Yes, reading a story with a fandom/pairing/genre whatever that you (universal you this time) hate is a dick move, but if someone can't be arsed to have correct summary and grammar in their title/summary, I believe they deserve to attract people who want to yell at them for being bad at writing.

35 Name: Anonymous : 2009-12-07 11:04 ID:4JCDxqBj

i love complaining about peoples fanfics it is soooooo funny

36 Name: A : 2009-12-07 11:13 ID:4JCDxqBj

it so cool, i agree.

37 Name: Marth : 2009-12-07 11:15 ID:0Bwkr1GD

Honey, if you don't change your IP, everyone can see when you're using sockpuppets.

38 Name: Squinky-Cullen : 2009-12-07 11:34 ID:E79tsDTw

I hate it when people complain, its annoying. Its like you just tried your best for other peoples enteratinment and they just critisise. I understand creative critisism but complaining all the time in not worth the hassle

39 Name: Sophie : 2009-12-07 12:59 ID:9tUb3P/r

i totally know what you mean byy this. I've had one guy who just listed everything that was wrong with my fan fiction, it was really rude.

40 Name: Indie : 2009-12-07 14:32 ID:WfRWPuIW

I actually meant that i critique helpfully, Marth, I just didn't put that very well, but if they really are very very bad i wont waste words being too polite about it

41 Name: Marth : 2009-12-07 15:06 ID:0Bwkr1GD

>>40 Do you mean Yasona's review? Because, um, she was really polite, and from looking at the first chapter of that fic, her critiques seemed pretty valid. If it was her review you were talking about, then I think you need to calm down. She was CLEARLY being helpful, not spiteful.

>>41 Oh! Sorry I misinterpreted your comment, Indie. And I can't really fault you for going to town on shitfics when they pop up. Heck, the reason I post nonny here is because someone's already disparaged me on the bitchy reviews thread--though to be fair, I've never called that particular person's writing anything worse than mediocre.

42 Name: Zaku-118 : 2009-12-07 15:35 ID:BQd3L6kR

>>35 sorry about that, i guess i didn't type that very well. It's not that i'm homophobic, far from it in fact. It's just it annoys me when comments and reviews don't really tell you anything apart from this story sucks.
It was a very bad choice of words on my part and i apologies if i've caused any offence to anyone.

43 Name: Indie : 2009-12-09 02:45 ID:WfRWPuIW

Lol, don't worry Marth, it's fine :) what do you mean about bitchy reviews, someone's complained about you or theyv had a go at you on it? The great thing about all of this, put a bit of advice in your rant and maybe cut some of the worse language and the writer can't complain, and some of CRAP they write...

And hey, Zaku, don't feel too bad when someone just flames you without helping at all on your story - that just means you're already better than they are and theyr just proving it, no matter how hard they swear at you, theyr just proving it more (i get a laugh from mine)

44 Name: Eve : 2009-12-09 10:07 ID:G169Bx2D

Well, I suppose if they're giving constructive critisism...

45 Name: Eve : 2009-12-09 10:07 ID:G169Bx2D

Well, I suppose if they're giving constructive critisism...

46 Name: inulover90 : 2009-12-11 10:55 ID:MTS6jn+8

i have had one person that absolutly irritated me. i don't mind when people tell me i need to fix this or that and stuff like that. recently i had gotten one that i had posted in the thread bitchy reviews. it was from someone that i couldn't write anything back at and they said "just fyi oi means yes, idiot." on a review for like chapter 36! i was so mad! i wanted to write back to tell them they were wrong but i couldn't so i wrote a nice note on the newest chapter at the time and basically told them they needed to do research before they said anything and i wrote what oi meant. i know they probably never read it but it made me feel better.

i had one person review my inuyasha story that helped me so much but i have only ever gotten one review from them.

47 Name: Elkkun : 2009-12-11 11:39 ID:841v5TCI

@47, amazingly you say 'oi' over here to get attention. Like "Oi you!" or "Oi James, listen ¬_¬" Yeah...

In Belgium I heard you can use it to Greet and Say goodbye :) so Oi can mean a lot of different things...I mean 'oi' in their country could mean 'yes'... ^_^'

48 Name: inulover90 : 2009-12-11 11:48 ID:MTS6jn+8

>>48 but to write it to me and not see that i could have more meanings, and to call me an idiot was uncalled for. i'm not upset because they said that i'm upset because they called me an idiot without any thought to find out about it or even think 'jeez this word is used universally, could it mean something else'

i did do some research after i got the review thinking that i could have been wrong, and i didn't find anything about yes. but like i said i really don't care about that, it's the point that they called me an idiot.

49 Name: inulover90 : 2009-12-11 12:40 ID:rZMbvNXF

it is also a Japanese manga so i mean it should make one think, 'hey it's a Japanese manga, this is a word that would have a Japanese meaning.' i'm not trying to get all upset at anyone i'm just trying to make my point. ^_^

50 Name: Elkkun : 2009-12-15 04:21 ID:DEOMByoR

@49, Oh I see. Yeah they hadn't got a right to call you an idiot...
I got a review not so long ago from somebody who said "Your writing sucks." I laughed and ignored them, simply because it was a story from about...Two years ago -giggle-.

But yeah, I get your point. What did you make 'oi' mean in your fiction? Just wondering 's'all.

Fffff, ran outta things to say now hahaha.

51 Name: ThisIsMyAlternateReality : 2009-12-15 10:53 ID:SRCS+GTm

Someone once told me my story flowed about as well as a jar of crunchy peanut butter.I laughed,because it was meant in a nice way but if someone just wrote a review saying "Your story sucks" then I would have told them where to get off.I you don't like,don't review.Seriously.I'd rather you didn't give me feedback then you make me cry because you're being mean.

52 Name: XImmyX : 2009-12-15 12:09 ID:9gEeYeYr

I hate it when people do that. I read one of my sister's stories reviews and there was one by an anonymous person that just said 'Lame' I really hate people who do that.

53 Name: inulover90 : 2009-12-16 22:41 ID:rZMbvNXF

>>51
i had it as a 'hey!' like when i have Inuyasha yell at the kids or what ever. i have over 60 chapters and they had read all the way up to chapter 36 just to say that. lol i mean i've had that in there from the very first chapter.

people are crazy sometimes! and some are even plain stupid! ^^

54 Name: Lauraac2110 : 2009-12-18 09:56 ID:3svwSrqv

I'm an author and, without constructive criticism, I'd probably be out of a hobby. Constructive criticism really helps a writer to improve and I've used it to make my novel even better.

However, anonymous reviewers who criticise my novel without explanations usually get their reviews deleted on my part. It saves me the trouble of having to report them to FF.Net for abusive behaviour.

55 Name: IsoyaNaoko94 : 2009-12-18 14:32 ID:uNRQYT8S

its constructive critisism, and its really helpful, to most writers

56 Name: ... : 2009-12-18 18:50 ID:p7x4WWO+

'If you don't like, don't review'?!

W.T.F

Do you know what a review IS?

For those who are unaware, an evaluation of any kind involves more than lavishing praise. If you are not willing to accept that your writing is invariably going to be flawed in places, you should not be posting your work online, but putting it in a box under your pillow, on which you can rest your over-inflated head every night.

Now then.

A review that says 'your writing sucks' is, indeed, pointless. If the reviewer does not suggest any possible improvements, or, at the very least, pinpoint exactly what they dislike, they have wasted the time it took to write the review.

If, on the other hand, you have a whole pile of reviews from different people claiming that 'your writing sucks', there may be some truth in the statement.

57 Name: Marth : 2009-12-18 21:47 ID:RzakbnOt

>>57 This.

Those of us who complain don't have the right to a fandom free of badfic, but neither does anyone have the right to be exempt from criticism.

58 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-12-19 02:47 ID:G4SKjdk9

>>57
internet works perfect, when fair game exists.
I'm not a professional write but you are not a professional critic either.
to be a critic and review books in the newspaper you have to have some kind of degree.
there is that FF user who thinks that she is the best writer and also the best critic. she claims on her account that she is here to critique and if we dont like that then we shouldnt upload our fics. I saw once a review of her to a story i quite like, not the best fic but not a trash either. and she didnt mention any spelling/grammar errors not plot holes[if there were any] she was just "your fic is shit, your writing style sucks and you should stop writing for world's sake" or something. I read her fic after that and her writing style was so complicated that i couldnt really understand the fic.
the main problem is that ppl do not realize their limits.
an arrogant writer would not accept criticism and an arrogant critic will flame you because they can.
arrogance is a bitch

59 Name: ... : 2009-12-19 06:01 ID:p7x4WWO+

I enjoyed the irony in the statement 'I am not a perfect write'. Typographical errors can be most amusing...

60 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-12-19 06:06 ID:S/4Q83+m

i said professional not perfect i never claimed im perfect

61 Name: ... : 2009-12-19 06:30 ID:p7x4WWO+

My mistake. You may beat me with a stick. Although I think 'professional write' is still rather amusing...

62 Name: セーラーエリス : 2009-12-19 06:32 ID:S/4Q83+m

>>60 also by commenting on my typo and being sarcastic to me about it, shows that you dont even care about the rest of my post.

do you do that to the fanfics you review too?

63 Name: Cat : 2009-12-19 06:35 ID:FLhOwpWG

I wouldn't say don't review if you think its rubbish but I agree that flames are just stupid.

Also, I wish people would read the summary. I was writing a fanfiction with a slash pairing and had a reviewer tell me that the characters weren't gay and that I should therefore change my story... All I have to say is that I just ended up laughing at them. My story, my rules, don't you think?

64 Name: ... : 2009-12-19 06:43 ID:p7x4WWO+

I was not being sarcastic. I actually agreed with your post; the typo just happened to be in an amusing place. Perhaps this would be better:

'Oopsie! :S My browser doesn't let me copy and paste, or read what I'm replying to while I type (darn mobile) so quotes are never that reliable from me. :P When I mess things up like that, just, I dunno, send small creatures to attack me, or something. :P I wasn't trying to be mean, it just made me giggle (and, c'mon, you gotta admit it's still kinda funny with the word 'professional'...xD)'

I hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

65 Name: Elkkun : 2009-12-20 05:28 ID:841v5TCI

@65 yeah, it is kinda funny when that happens. It's also funny when teachers make spelling mistakes. I was laughing at my teacher in maths because he'd spelt a word wrong and everyone was like "How's that funny?"

Simple: He's a TEACHER and he's meant to TEACH us XD And he spells a /simple/ word wrong.

How ISN'T that funny? seriously?
Back on topic.
I agree with the flame thing, flames are pointless. Reviews that just say "Your writing sucks." are incredibly pointless, and better yet. THAT PERSON WAS ANONYMOUS. [insert laugh here].

Constructive Crit' is actually usefull. I enjoy it a LOT when people do that with my stories and point out my errors and stuff. Sometimes I'll get my internet brother (not related to me in any way really...) to give me a review on one of my stories and he'll be like 'Yeah, you're definately improving...Keep it up!' :3 but more lengthy and detailed.

RANT OVER [insert evil laugh here with thunderbolts and- wait...what's that got to do with anything?]

66 Name: ... : 2009-12-22 06:23 ID:p7x4WWO+

If it is a maths teacher, what can one expect?

For my GCSEs, my English teacher would mis-type every other word. It made lessons most enjoyable. 'Dogging' in place of 'digging' was the funniest.

67 Name: Rivala : 2009-12-22 07:49 ID:InaEzXo5

To Cat...

That's quite a funny story. Surely if the description says its a gay couple and you don't like that pairing, surely you'd just avoid it altogether...?

LOLs though, and you're right. Your story, your rules :D

68 Name: Hyper : 2009-12-23 09:38 ID:pCktGZb5

What i hate most is when your new to writing fanfic or new to writing a fanfic for that anime, book or cartoon etc and then people who put comments that have no suggestions in them on how to improve the fanfic story. I wouldn't mind a review that tells me how to improve my stories but ones that just say "this story sucks" or something like that then i think 'you were once just starting out too' in my head.

69 Name: Loola : 2009-12-24 03:40 ID:l+wYFiq+

Personaly, i realy love constructive critisims (so long as it is valid). I don't however apreciate (and damn you i can't remembger your log in name!!) when someone starts picking and killing some quite irrelivent point in the plot!! In my fic I had the two main characters tickling one another in a market, and she (i presume it was a she seeing as I was writing slash but hey! male readers much welcome lol) started having a go about how you dont tickle people in markets because it can get you chucked out and because it distracts stall sellers so things can get nicked... WTF??? cuz yeah, that had EVERYTHING to do with vampires ??

70 Name: Elkkun : 2009-12-24 08:22 ID:841v5TCI

@... lol yeah! It's even funnier when ENGLISH teachers make a mistake :)

71 Name: ... : 2009-12-24 11:37 ID:p7x4WWO+

>>70 Your reviewer pointed out quite a plot hole. She may not have done so politely, but it sounds as though she had a point. As an author, it is your duty to confront such plot holes head-on and eradicate them. If you do not relish the challenge, don't write. For fiction to entertain, the reader has to be willing to suspend disbelief, and this is impossible if the plot requires great leaps of faith to accept.

>>71 Indeed. He is not best pleased with our group when we point out his errors, but it has become something of an enjoyable pastime.

72 Name: Blindfirekiller : 2009-12-26 22:35 ID:768MFpsH

I haven't had a flame yet (so my ego is stretches arms this big) but I once read one that read: This story is so shit you should kill yourself

OMG anyone like WOAHHH!

73 Name: Elkkun : 2009-12-27 08:08 ID:841v5TCI

@73 please, I don't wanna go blind. Put your ego away or I'll find your stories and flame one for the hell of it. -giggle- naaah, I'm not a flamer.

wait...'this story is so shit you should kill yourself' O_o...if somebody said that to me, I might've responded.

'That review was so shit you should kill yourself. Have a nice afterlife ^^'

@72 yeah :P he should at least re-read it through before showing the class it.

74 Name: faery : 2009-12-27 12:44 ID:ov9mrZLV

to be honest most of the flames are just plane rude, i mean criticism - okay fair enough but a flame just hurts you emotionally sniffs in bckgrd lol

i don't get it

what i hate is when it's like there's someone out to get people constantly sending these negative reviews - what's the point?

75 Name: Elkkun : 2010-01-05 08:51 ID:841v5TCI

>>75 Faery (is that an American version of Fairy?), there was this one person on ff.net called 'Flame Rising' and as their name says they just flamed everyone for the hell of it. There were a few people who told me to ignore them and just carry on because they were being rude ect. Flames do hurt people and I think I read somewhere on ff.net that you can't 'flame' a story, I'm sure I read it or it had something along those lines.

76 Name: Lauraac2110 : 2010-01-11 10:24 ID:jqvCebS/

Flames... certainly a nightmare if you ever get them. I'm fortunate so far that I've managed to avoid being flamed in one way or another so I must be doing something right.

Recently, I've been getting a lot of decent constructive criticism and praise from my reviewers so I certainly must be doing something right for now. I've also encouraged a lot of people reading my novel to review regularly to help me improve even further. A few reviewers have signed up to be my informal betas as well because of the community that I'm beginning to build up around my novels.

I find that some writers leave themselves wide open for criticism when, for example, someone criticises their story with "this story sucks". If that ever happened to me, I'd be replying instantly and asking "why?" so that I can improve my novel. I wouldn't be evil in reply.

However, if I get regular complaints from the same people without justification, I often ask myself why are they even bothering to read any further? If you don't like a fanfic, you don't have to read all the way to the end.

Some people still don't realise that.

77 Name: Trapped in Reality : 2010-01-15 16:13 ID:YxWRzj9S

I love it when I get reviews like, "Bad, stupid story. Reading it was such a waste of time. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, but I've flushed better things down my toilet." And the author hasn't written one story. It was a parody, meaning it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

78 Name: Niori : 2010-01-15 18:08 ID:zEeOOMoT

My personal fav? When someone reads all the way into a story, THEN flames. If you don't like the story, why did you read 45 chapters in (personal experience)? Especially when it's the third story of the triology, and they commented on how much they hated the first two. I mean, really.

Oh, and when flamers go and say something like 'you should do the world a favor and take this down blah blah blah' speel (This one isn't personal, but I saw it in the reviews of a Danny Phantom I read). The irony in that? THe story had over 100 reviews, and that was the ONLY flame. So clearly, by attempting to speak on behalf of the world, they kind of look like idoits with an over inflated opinion of themselves.

79 Name: Taloolah P : 2010-01-20 04:40 ID:/3lsYF0m

I have only ever had two reviews that weren't positive so i count myself as lucky. The two 'bad' reviews I got were basically telling me that my stories were disgusting and too explicit fot M rating. The thing that really made me laugh was that one of the reviewers then added my story to her favourites!
I always review what i read and even if I don't like it I will find something positive to say about it as well as sometimes making suggestions for changes / improvements (usually grammar and punctuation based).

80 Name: Taloolah P : 2010-01-20 04:40 ID:/3lsYF0m

I have only ever had two reviews that weren't positive so i count myself as lucky. The two 'bad' reviews I got were basically telling me that my stories were disgusting and too explicit fot M rating. The thing that really made me laugh was that one of the reviewers then added my story to her favourites!
I always review what i read and even if I don't like it I will find something positive to say about it as well as sometimes making suggestions for changes / improvements (usually grammar and punctuation based).

81 Name: Hanmy : 2010-01-20 08:55 ID:WMmbxi4/

I wrote one fic and an anonymous reviewer who named himself 'Alex' read it and flamed, then 2 chaps later he reviewed again claiming to have read it again to see if I had taken in what he had said and he flamed me AGAIN! If he didn't like it the first time then why the hell did he keep reading!? Some people are so annoying, although he was my only flamer for the fic, I've only ever had a couple of flames for my stories so I consider myself quite lucky :D x x

82 Name: Iaculus : 2010-01-20 10:29 ID:odODChv2

>>78 There are such things as bad parodies, though. See: the Freidberg and Seltzer stable.

83 Name: DuxAtrum : 2010-01-20 10:32 ID:uDTiE61H

Sometimes people flame multiple times because the people they flame just don't seem to get the point.

Now, am not—nor have I ever been—an advocate of flaming. There's much better ways to get a point across than insulting the writer personally.

BUT.

Some people—some people on this very thread—need to realize the difference between a 'bad' (or, as I would put it, critical) review, and a flame.

A critical review might tell you that your story needs work. It might say it wasn't particularly interesting. It might say even your story downright sucks. NONE of these is a flame (though the last might be pushing it, depending on the wording).

A flame is a personal insult to you, or your ancestry/progeny/whatever. A critical review attacks the story. A flame attacks the writer. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

In my book, the only bad review is a review with no point. (As in, the ones that just say 'update' right after you've posted a new bleeding chapter, or ones that say your fic sucked and don't explain why.)

84 Name: Ran Fan : 2010-01-20 12:25 ID:jL53YBCc

@ DuxAtrum - Well said. There's a lot of people who need to learn how to take criticism.

85 Name: inulover90 : 2010-01-31 19:54 ID:c55glwLu

>>75
because they need to make themselve feel better about their lives and what they do.... it seems that those who have lower self esteem tend to make fun of, or, for lack of a way to explain it, be really mean to others.

i just got a review from a TKD Master. they read all 9 chapter that i had posted at the time and reviewed... they really made me mad... i would post it but it's really long and i was talking about in another thread also, but they told me how my story should have been written and how i should make my characters act and look. i of course cannot just sit back and read it and let it go, soooo i wrote a nice note on my new chapter because i could not send TKD Master a note back.
i dont mind being told things i did wrong or things that people think would have worked better... i have had a few like that and i have worked on a few things and plan to have others in another story yet to be posted, but being called stupid, and an idiot and having things like this last review said to me really just..... piss's me off!

86 Name: Elkkun : 2010-02-02 14:32 ID:841v5TCI

>>79 oh another Danny Phantom fan...cool :) Don't see any of those around much heh...Seems to be forgotten, blown into the wind.

I was told that I couldn't write so -shrugs- I dunno whether that's a 'flame' or just a...'bad' review because it didn't attack me....Just...Made me puzzled -raises my eyebrow-

Cheers for the explanation though DuxAtrum (or post number 84 xD)

87 Name: ... : 2010-02-02 17:06 ID:p7x4WWO+

@Elkkun- I'd say that's on the borderline, or rather, not quite a flame, but very nearly. And I'll tell Dux you thanked him/her/it.

88 Name: hikarinimichitasora : 2010-02-03 04:54 ID:/SGjJVkf

There is a person who I don't understand who reads my fics.

She clearly doesn't like the pairing (Sephiroth/Cloud) and is a HUGE Zack fan. She also hates yaoi. She reads, I assume, because there's not much het for her to read and the secondary pairing in there is Zack/Aerith.

Now, I'm pretty sure that when a story is listed as a Sephiroth/Cloud fic, you'd understand that Sephiroth and CLoud owuld be the main characters. Not this girl. I've had more complaints about my handling of Zack and Aerith as characters than I have commentary on the actual story. This may be because I don't write them as OMG PERFECT GENKI LOL and instead show less pleasant personality traits but seriously...

There are warnings. I tell you the pairing. I gave out a massive list of warnings at the beginning of the fic. You ignored them. Seriously, don't go into a S/C fic and expect tons of Zack and Aerith!

Okay, I'm done.

89 Name: Anonymous : 2010-02-05 16:20 ID:uDTiE61H

stumbles in, bemused and half-asleep

Whuzzat? Oh, you're welcome, Elkkun. Always glad to be of service. doffs hat

And >>89—well, that's another matter entirely. If your fic actually DID make Zack and Aeris OOC, they'd have a legitimate right to complain regardless of what the main pairing was... but this strikes me more as a fanbrat being, well, a fanbrat.

It's interesting, though, your comment about 'less pleasant personality traits', because you could make a case that the original (i.e. FFVII) Zack Fair is not as pleasant and puppy-like as Crisis Core makes him out to be. I've seen it argued, at least, and rather convincingly. The man WAS a soldier in the Wutai war, after all. Likewise, Aeris is not a perfect saint. (Though I still hold that, of all the profoundly flawed members of AVALANCHE, she was by far the purest.) So if you guide yourself more by original canon, rather than the Compilation (which the younger fans and/or fanbrats seem to do)—then yeah, Zack would definitely have at least a little bit of a not-so-nice side.

/longpost

whooshes off to educate the innocent sum moar

90 Name: Hikarinimichitasora : 2010-02-06 03:54 ID:aKHifgvc

>>90 I tend to portray Zack as an inherently selfish character. In ACC I felt this became highlighted even more. Aeris wants Cloud to forgive himself, but yet when fighting Sephiroth, Zack tells him to continue to live out his life for /Zack/. Also, I don't let Zack bounce around oblivious, or have him come up with stupid hare-brained schemes or play match-maker etc etc. A lot of fanbrats (particularly those who have only played CC) don't understand this.

91 Name: ... : 2010-02-06 05:39 ID:p7x4WWO+

'Rather convincingly', hmm? If that's a reference to my posts, Dux, thank you. If not, I'll sniffle.

I cba to text it all again, so here are the points condensed:

-Zack's a SOLDIER. He's been in a war. Wars are nothing like that THING that turned up in CC, whatever it was. He's a killer, and he'll have killed civilians, too. He isn't particularly bothered by killing; he suggests that he and Cloud become mercs. While I doubt that he'd murder a child or a young woman, he wouldn't mind killing a guard or a man he was ordered to kill, because he doesn't place the same value on all human lives. This contrasts directly with the puppy persona.

-He's a tough, cynical character who has his own code of honour. If you look at Cloud's behaviour while he is trying to imitate Zack, this is evident. He'll look out for those close to him, and he'll try and help others sometimes, but he'll always put his friends first.

-He's an ADULT MAN.

92 Name: Bola : 2010-02-13 09:27 ID:6mnQ6ufq

Yeah. I hate them as well. I had something like that on a YouTube video of mine, which I think is comparable. It simply said, "It's supposed to be Duquesne instead of DuCaine, you..." Sjee. If she had even looked at the thing, she would have realized I wasn't only talking about Calleigh, but her relationship with Horatio, which is being referred to as DuCaine.
In fact, I do hate simple reviews, like 'Gr8!' as well. I wonder if they even read the story or just wanted to give me a break. What's great? Everything??

93 Name: Elkkun : 2010-02-13 10:38 ID:z/edXzs8

>>93 obviously so. :P

You should put a little AN saying 'can you at least TRY and give me some concrit?' :3 maybe people'll try and do it then.

94 Name: moonphase9 : 2010-02-13 14:37 ID:oNNrjFRd

I'm just grateful for any nice review...

95 Name: LyssaOneiroi : 2010-03-01 13:21 ID:mWRIXhdj

I like constructive critisism, I try to listen to it and all, I like recieving reviews they make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
That being said, I hate it when it's really abrupt, like:
'You need to run your story through a spellchecker, you have lots of typos'
Then I think, 'well, did you like the story? Was there an opinion in there?'
I hate it when reviews focus solely on grammar and spelling. Yes, they're incredibly important I completely agreed, but the reason I don't edit my work as thoroughly as I should is because I want people to tell me how to change the plot and what they think about it.

96 Name: moonphase : 2010-03-01 13:34 ID:Kd8RCuY5

DEATH NOTE SPOILERS
For a one shot I did my summary was:
"Slight AU: Misa Amanes thoughts ten years after Light becomes Kira. "
(For those unfamiliar with Death Note, Light is a villain (sort of) character who doesn't become 'Kira', hence why I mentioned it was slightly AU.)
Then I got a review saying:
"Ten years after Light dies? That can't be, as Misa commits suicide a little after Light is killed."
The person could not have even read my summary properly let alone the story as I quite clearly stated, it was an AU and in this version Light won. Annoying...

97 Name: Elkkun : 2010-03-02 04:49 ID:DEOMByoR

pfft, hopefully you said to them "Read the summary next time, then come back and review ¬_¬"

It kinda makes me laugh when people read stories from ages ago then tell you
"You can't write"

OH I DO WONDER WHY.

98 Name: Anonymous : 2010-03-02 10:00 ID:Uzc2Ssg1

people why do you all think that everyone in this world cares about ur bad reviews. if u ask 4 reviews b prepared to get loads of bad ones cos u r all losers

99 Name: Anonymous : 2010-03-02 10:01 ID:Uzc2Ssg1

people why do you all think that everyone in this world cares about ur bad reviews. if u ask 4 reviews b prepared to get loads of bad ones cos u r all losers

100 Name: Iaculus : 2010-03-02 10:53 ID:+k6atRyu

>>99 Ah, but are they literate losers?

101 Name: Kimmmz : 2010-03-03 11:28 ID:yeCelKHq

'...' I totally agree with what you said. I want to be able to improve my writing so when I get reviews like 'awsome chapter' and I know it's not good, I think it's pointless. I'd much rather to get a review saying 'pile of shit'.

It annoys me that a person would ask for reviews and want nice ones. I am often wanting to just review saying 'bloody fucking terrible' but don't want to upset them.

My first fanfiction was put on a community of the 'worst ever' or something. Sure, it would upset a lot of people, but I loved that twenty something people were pointing out all of the shitty stuff thats happened in my writing. I believe that it's improved my writing bucket loads, as my second fanfic is on something like 450 reviews, (without a single 'plain terrible' reviews.)

So to annyone who says people shouldn't complain about them, why don't you want to know? Don't you want to improve? If your getting bad reviews, you're blatently doing something wrong. Really, it's your fault you're getting the shitey reviews in the first place :)

102 Name: moonphase : 2010-03-03 12:04 ID:Kd8RCuY5

>>102 A lot of people here are not angry because someone criticised their work but either because they said something random, didn't read the story or summary properly before complaining or just said something asinine. Most people are happy to have con crit.Mine wasn't a shitty review exactly, it was someone criticising who hadn't read my summary. So it was a case of someone being so eager to critise, they criticised something that did not matter...just read my post at >>97 to understand...

103 Name: J : 2010-03-03 21:03 ID:SmVGKBoA

Forgive me if some of this has already been said, it’s nearly four am, I haven’t go time to read the whole thread.

Constructive criticism is perhaps the greatest and most important tool in any would-be writer’s arsenal, however needless criticism over petty plot disputes can be demoralising to an author.

That being said, I’m seeing some people who are complaining about people calling their writing out of character, that’s just a bad attitude to have. If you’re constantly under criticism over your characterisation (even poorly worded flames) then you might want to take a step back from the story and think about how those characters really would react. Even something as fundamental as your chosen pairing can be seen as out of character if done badly (for example Snape/Lupin, without sufficient explanation can seem absurd).

I personally have never had any reviews like that, however I have seen them for time to time on other people’s stories (in an amusingly ironic sort of way the reviews are usually poorly written). If you genuinely can’t see a reason for them, then they’re just flamers looking for an argument, who take pride in making other people feel small. Ignore them and/or delete them, they probably didn’t even read your story.

And as for those saying they don’t like people pointing out specific corrections (11 I think it was?): Sometime specific correction are good, if you only made one or two errors (and really, if you’re posting something for others to read, then you shouldn’t be making more than a few minor errors), then a reader pointing them out to you is best, as you don’t need to scour the whole thing with a eagle eye to find the mistakes. Writers have a tendency to miss their own mistakes as they read what they meant to write rather than what they actually did – hence the existence of proof readers.

I once misspelled ‘shirt’ in a rather, erm, amusing way (despite re-reading the story a half dozen times before posting it), I laughed when it was pointed out to me.

I must say , what I personally despise the most is people who say they can handle/would appreciate constructive criticism but as soon as they’re actually given any, they can’t take it and go off the wall about it. When someone goes to the effort of giving you constructive criticism, and tells you how you can improve something, then you can at least try to take it on board.

That was a little long-winded, sorry.

104 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-03-19 06:43 ID:72zFuB2D

I have written today my most bitchy review ever, and I am waiting for a response!!

here is it:

>I hate it to be a B!tch BUT while reading this I wanted to punch my screen :@ such a beautiful story with such potentials being destroyed by mare details of DUB OOCness!! Why is so difficult to use USAGI and MAMORU when you used all the other names correctly, is beyond me! WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO WRITE FOR THE JAPANESE VERSION you need to use all JAPANESE names, and erase every stupid word the eng Dub came up with like "meatball head" or "scouts"[that you didn't included but it is stupid] ODANGO-ATAMA which is a nickname ONLY MAMORU, HARUKA & SEIYA used it doesn't mean meatball head. Odango is ball-shaped food that is sweet rise, NOT MEAT. Rei never used that nickname for USAGI. MAMORU [and not Darien or whatever] didn't broke Usagi's heart in canon, he was simply DEAD. Haruka doesn't hate him! if you meant Seiya, that's another story, People seem to forget that while Haruka was dying she asked her to protect Usagi!

I couldn't help it though and neither regretting writing that review, I was really pissed when i read that story!!!

105 Name: sharingansupergirl : 2010-03-19 09:59 ID:NQSyWL4b

:o Methinks SeraEris is passionate about a certain something! :)

All that over the wrong terms? Not that you don't have a point, because frankly you do, but it might have been worth saying why using the english dubs were mistaken, commenting on how it took the professionalism away from the story and confused other readers. I only suspect the writer may not take your review seriously (which they should) because you haven't reasoned your views.

I say that, and can sort of understand where they went wrong with the food, but they used all the other names except Usagi and Mamoru? Really now. >:(

106 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-03-19 11:13 ID:72zFuB2D

>>106 she replied me and told me that she will consider everything for her next story. I think I broke her a bit :s

but you know in Sailor Moon fandom they totally know why we are bitching about the names. there is a hate for the eng DUB, What I CAN'T take is the use of Dub OOCness, because we are talking about a whole different show :S

from the whole cast she used only Haruka, Michiru, Seiya, Rei, Usagi and Mamoru, and while she used all Japanese names for the first four she said Serena and Derian for the other two!!!

it is just that "If you don't know your fandom, DON'T WRITE ABOUT IT, choose something else. or just do a research.

107 Name: Elkkun : 2010-03-19 12:13 ID:z/edXzs8

>>105 I kinda love the way she spells some words wrong and has to CAPSLOCK everything that seems IMPORTANT to her (Hahaha she spells rice wrong X'D)

108 Name: Elkkun : 2010-03-19 12:13 ID:z/edXzs8

>>108 no offense Sera X'D

109 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-03-19 12:35 ID:72zFuB2D

>>108 ahahahah thanks :P
why the third person POV ?

110 Name: Sabulana : 2010-03-20 11:15 ID:oRiDAuJa

I've been getting strange reviews lately, for old stuff I wrote years ago. One the one hand, I'm glad my fics are still being read but on the other, I'm not exactly happy I'm not getting any kind of concrit. I'm also wondering why they would bother reviewing only to point out that I'm 'twisted' or that such-and-such characters aren't gay. I know canonically that said characters are straight but I wanted to write it so I did. I admit, my writing back then was... not the best but even so, I don't think it is absolutely terrible either.

...Actually, I might go back and see if I can't improve all those old stories. See if I can get anymore reviews like that. XD It just makes me laugh to know people read my stories despite hating them. Life is too short to read stories you don't like.

111 Name: Elkkun : 2010-03-20 12:15 ID:z/edXzs8

>>110 hehehehe :3 your post made me laugh XD

>>111 what kind of stuff do you write for? :3 If there's anything there what I like I'll probably read it (unless it's a shoujo ai or yuri o-o...) and CC X3.

112 Name: sharingansupergirl : 2010-03-20 12:24 ID:ynneOZ4i

@107, I agree and can understand what you mean. At least she took your advise anyway.

@111, I guess, but then I've never reviewed a story I haven't read the whole way through. Why would I construct on something if I haven't already checked it has been done? Though why anyone would call you twisted for something that wasn't canon is a little pathetic.

113 Name: tilldeathdouspart789 : 2010-03-21 00:25 ID:UyMhwSKE

I wrote a poem and posted it on fanfiction.net and the only reply I got was...

BOLLOCKS.

Bollocks? BOLLOCKS!? What kind of review is Bollocks? I mean, seriously, they could have at least tried!

I can understand that my poem was a failure, but couldn't they have at least tried to write a proper review?
I'm still rather annoyed by it.
I decided to do the mature thing and reply to them saying something on the lines of 'sorry you didn't like it. My actual stories are a whole lot better, trust me!' or something. I can't really remember...

114 Name: Sabulana : 2010-03-21 02:25 ID:oRiDAuJa

>>112 Most of my stuff is Jak and Daxter. I've been out of that fandom for years though. It's mostly shounen ai/slash/yaoi/whatever you wanna call it but there are a couple shoujo ai/yuri fics, I think. Or just the one. All my stuff has the proper warnings anyway so it should be easy enough to avoid if it's not the kind of thing you like.

>>113 I think the 'twisted' part for was for a fic that involved a nightmare about rape. Yeah, it is probably one of the worst fics I've got up there but still... It's not a topic I write about much - I don't usually write things that make me uncomfortable but I like to push my boundaries now and again.

115 Name: sharingansupergirl : 2010-03-21 05:16 ID:qrlmjfEs

@114, I might've asked them to keep their 'BOLLOCKS' off my review page, unless they've got some proper advise.

@115, Clearly the reviewer wasn't mature enough to handle it. I see you're uncomfortable about it, but keep pushing those boundries, you'll only get better. :)

116 Name: tilldeathdouspart789 : 2010-03-21 06:13 ID:UyMhwSKE

Yeah, they sent me a reply saying they'll check my other stories out, but they haven't reviewed them...
If they give me a review with a very inappropriate word, I'll probably just tell them to get lost, or something similar.
Have any of you realised that the ones giving those 'bollocks' reviews are not actually that serious about fan-fiction? I'd like to point out that reviews are there for the writers to improve, not feel bad about what they have written and the reviews also help them improve on their writing abilities. Such as Sabulana, experimenting with topics she is uncomfortable to write about and getting reviews to see if she actually did a good job. I have seen a lot of Yaoi and Yuris that are really well done, despite the fact that the real characters are straight (That doesn't mean I am a Yaoi/Yuri person. I prefer stories where the characters are straight, but that's no reason to criticise someone's work).

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