Lemon, Yuri, Yaoi, even hetero lets talk about it :D (117)

1 Name: SeraEris : 2009-09-09 10:05 ID:3sfbZz+l

since that beautiful thread about lemons and the other one with the slash was deleted along with the other stuff [so sad about it]
here is a thread to start over.

Yuri lemons about my fav pairing Haruka and Michiru are my thing
;)

68 Name: Elkkun : 2010-02-08 03:38 ID:Fh1wdy9N

Uh...One of my fave pairings at the moment is probably...

Darren/Evra Evra/Darren or Steve and Darren from Darren Shan's Cirque Du Freak... :F Gotta love that Snake X3. -would love to cuddle Evra from the manga-

69 Name: moonphase9 : 2010-02-17 14:53 ID:uuVxcx+Z

I like yaoi fics (cute), hetero fics and even some yuri (very easy going.) But I don't write them. I would probably be pretty bad at it as I'm female and hetrosexual therefore I would not really know what I was talking about...

Just for fun- find out what seme or uke type you are:
http://semeuke.com/quiz.php

70 Name: moonphase9 : 2010-02-17 14:54 ID:uuVxcx+Z

I've never read Darren Shan but I really want to. Unfortunately the only books my local libraries seem to stock are by Catherine Cookson...

71 Name: Elkkun : 2010-03-02 04:30 ID:Fh1wdy9N

I've never read Darren Shan's work either, I'm only currently reading the manga for it what's released weekly anyway ^^'.

I would like to read the actual book though so I might see if I can find it anywhere...

72 Name: OpiumPoppy : 2010-03-12 12:29 ID:UqR7xYGP

>>34 Lol, I don't really agree with A, I mean it seems really necessary but if you read enough good lemons I'm sure that writers can get the gist, but I think you said A because of B really. And that I definately agree with, the worst slash lemons are just completely anatomically incorrect. The writer can be amazing but if you have zero knowledge of what you're writing about then how can you expect it to make any sense?! Still, you can have knowledge without having to have lost your virginity just like I'm pretty sure that some people can write kink and bdsm without having taken part in anything but vanilla.

73 Name: Jaygirl942 : 2010-03-14 14:36 ID:HqPdo0Pn

I've read book 7 and 8 of Darren Shan but kind of...skipped the rest -sheepish grin- I've wrote a yuri lemon, but I'm a virgin, and...well I hope its good. I've read lots of yaoi stories with explicit sex and I'm fairly sure I know where to put things. I've actually find that I've learn't a lot about sex in general, that can help me a lot when I'm older and actually have a sex life. I mean, I'm Bi, and wasn't quite sure how lesbian sex worked, but by reading yuri I found out some priceless info.

74 Name: RayRay : 2010-03-14 17:02 ID:v/wnJqJR

The fun thing about sex written in fanfics, as I think I've mentioned previously, is the ability of the author to wax poetic about the whole encounter, and make it seem like the most flawless thing ever.

Sex, in reality, is a little clumsy at first, until you both know what you like, oftentimes over very quickly, and can result in some rather embarrasing situations, whether the sex in question be hetero, yuri or yaoi.

The day I read a well-written and realistic sex scene in fanfic, or any fic, will make my day. And no, I'm not going to attempt to do it, because I'm not stupid.

75 Name: edgeygavin : 2010-03-16 12:06 ID:s0DW1p1R

definition of prazes please! What IS lemon?

76 Name: RayRay : 2010-03-16 12:33 ID:f2fF+QG/

a smutty sex scene... or just a sex scene in general.

77 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-03-16 13:28 ID:akx6fSfj

>>75 @edgeygavin

from Wikipedia:

>Lemon: Explicit sex stories in general, especially in anime fan fiction, are known as lemon, lemony-goodness, and lemonade, a term which comes from a Japanese slang term meaning "sexy" that itself derives from an early pornographic Anime series called Cream Lemon.

Origin of the Lemon turn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_Lemon

78 Name: Anon : 2010-03-21 00:53 ID:URCLx3CN

Someone said:

"Who else here is in favour of the unofficial law that states that you may only write lemons or slash if:
A) You have actually had sex
B) You have some knowledge of the relevant anatomy."

I don't fall into either of those categories, but by reading a lot of stuff written by guys I've done quite a bit of research. And if people enjoy reading it, and I enjoy writing it, where's the problem? If you don't like it, scroll on past.

79 Name: Refi : 2010-03-28 11:22 ID:6jIwcGYE

I only write romance, and most of the time it turns out to be yaoi or just general lemon, but I agree that you need some experience with it. I'll admit I'm a bisexual, but only ever done things with guys. However, like most teenagers I've seen some porn, so I know a thing or two about same sex stuff. You don't necessarily have to have done things yourself but just have known about how it's done anyway

80 Name: Iaculus : 2010-03-28 11:27 ID:pDEEPv0e

Bear in mind, though, that porn is not necessarily 'how it's done'...

81 Name: tokyomajin : 2010-03-28 14:01 ID:+es1VpHy

>>74 I always wait for the day its realistic as well but I think that sex scenes in need to be better than they are in real life...I just think that people want to read it being amazing! I did once try and make the sex scene in one of my stories more realistic...it turned out to be one of my less than popular stories that ended up never leaving my livejournal! lol

I do think you need some experience before you write...but only if what you are writing is going to be realistic about sex. As someone who is fairly experienced with most things I feel I can write them better now than I could before

82 Name: Anonymous : 2010-04-16 15:42 ID:5FC5ikZn

i really love yaoi lemons, and het lemons if they are from the girls pov, just yaoi in general is so hot

83 Name: Dark Wolf : 2010-04-17 03:36 ID:/Z7Ijs3Y

Im not overly sexual and havent had a whole tonne of experience. but i tend to find, there are some published Paranormal Romance books that can give quite a lot of info, base that around what you read in magazines and what you'd like to try/or have done rolled into one

BAM one interesting citrusy scene. Ive only written two or three. Im not too great at Lemons, I get a little embarrassed i havent done it right, or overdone it.

But totally agree, just because someone may not have experience or not have much of an idea of the 'workings' doesnt mean they cant write one. I wrote my first lemon at sweet sixteen and was a virgin to twenty-one. Im only twenty-six now. Not too much experience but i like to write them every once in a while.. :p

84 Name: EtherealForest : 2010-05-02 11:28 ID:i3VF8dbn

I'd agree too. Like writing in general if you ahve a good enough imagination and don't try and push things too far you can write good yuri. But having actual experience does allow one to start putting in the little extra details that make for the A* stories...for fanfics though as a lot of the readers won't have experienced lesbianism the loss of the extra detail probably wouldn't be noticed as much.

I also wanted to advertise an awesome yuri forum I just came across (it does have a smaller Yaoi section within it):
http://yuri-garden.com/forum.php

The sites still being upgraded/improved but it's a really great place for yuri fans and super friendly XD

85 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-03 03:35 ID:/fQzhgIa

>>84 hey Ethereal!
the site is great I joined yesterday :D
and it is really REALLY friendly indeed.
I'm who else 魔風はるか heheh :D

86 Name: Ethereal Forest : 2010-05-03 04:20 ID:nQ11BPjX

=D Sugoi! I know :) hehe.

And so glad you think so :)

Oh and I forgot to mention as well, the site has amazing smilies :D (I sold my sister on those ;))

87 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-03 06:06 ID:/fQzhgIa

yeah I have a thing with the onion ones ^_^

88 Name: KuroShoujo : 2010-05-03 10:24 ID:DWwwpQcD

I've never had sex and don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend but I write and draw many yaoi and ecchi for friends when I'm in the mood for it.
I like yaoi because I find it cute and different <333

89 Name: Lupa Dracolis : 2010-05-03 12:39 ID:Fxy8rcWk

>>88 ecchi?

90 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-03 13:55 ID:LMHwT/5L

>>89 ecchi stays for "H" or "Hentai" japanese pornography

91 Name: ... : 2010-05-03 14:06 ID:EGzzdXc2

@89- Well, ecchi is meant to be non-explicit, but still arousing, while hentai is porn. Think pinup girls vs porno videos.

92 Name: Lupa Dracolis : 2010-05-03 14:20 ID:Fxy8rcWk

>>91 oh okay, thanks.

93 Name: captinifeelwozey : 2010-05-05 11:01 ID:3vdNRSH4

So would anybody like to put up a link to their lemon?

We can all read it and then review it (just as this site intended). I'm not bothered on who the pairings are or what sex ratio is. It would just be nice to actually review somthing and have a good old chin wag about it. I think it will help the writer and other writers to see what sort of thing people like/ expect.

Don't be shy....

94 Name: captinifeelwozey : 2010-05-05 11:12 ID:3vdNRSH4

Ah! I just thought... has anybody written anything with Jason Momoa (Ronon Dex from Stargate Atlantis) in?

Because hes so damm fine!!! :)

95 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-05 22:43 ID:GUleBguG

>>93 you can find my lemons by clicking on my name
the one shots:
The War Between Us
Happy Birthday!
Tomodachi
are lime or lemons, first two are yuri, third is hetero
also all my multichapter stories have lemons included at some point

96 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-06 04:33 ID:GUleBguG

>>96 だめる

97 Name: captinifeelwozey : 2010-05-06 10:12 ID:dO78a/Ku

Ok peeps lets get reading :) Thankyou >>95 for being the first and bravest!

98 Name: captinifeelwozey : 2010-05-06 10:38 ID:dO78a/Ku

I read The War Between Us, and heres what I put in ur comments box:
Im not formiliar with the world of Naoko-sensei, but getting down to the lemon side of things it was good. The tension was building from the begining, which I liked and I realy liked your wording... it didn't sound commical or trashy (hope you understand that), loved the ending. More emphasise on the sexual feelings in turms of touch and emotionally would have improved it. Over all I realy liked it.

So what are other people's views on the story?

99 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-06 10:53 ID:WATgdh4O

thanks for the wonderful review!
can you please explain a bit more what you mean with that:

>"More emphasise on the sexual feelings in turms of touch and emotionally would have improved it"

I don't quite get what you want to say here and since is the most important part that would improve my writing I want to know so please explain it to me a bit more

100 Name: captinifeelwozey : 2010-05-06 14:12 ID:dO78a/Ku

LoL sorry.

Yes more in terms (sorry I spelt 'terms' very wrong before obviously not thinking straight) of touch, like what actually they felt with there hands, it doesn't have to be super graphic for example um... soft moist skin. (I cant write to much without risking this post being removed).

and sexual feeling like... for example: she moaned again the pressure was building up inside her. So basically extra words put into the lemon bit, to make it longer and seam more intense.

(sorry I wasnt signed in when I added my review to your story, if you want me to add more suggestions ill send you a private email).

101 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-06 21:48 ID:h0bR4CF0

Ohh got it now :)
actually that's how deep I go in Lemons lately, it is the way I like to read it so i go with that.
my most "hardcore" lemons are in "My life" chap3
and "Truck Driver" chap8 and 9

I'm not go THAT hardcore, i like to keep it more romantic I guess I don't know

102 Name: Lupa Dracolis : 2010-05-07 11:26 ID:Fxy8rcWk

Umm, not a lemon or anything, mainly yaoi humour. My story, Fairy Tales. (It's a Yu-gi-oh fanfic, the couple mainly being Hikari Marik x Yami Bakura.) It's a sort-of AU, where I've basically taken the characters from Yu-gi-oh and put them in various fairy tales, then had Bakura and Marik comment on them.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5879975/1/Fairy_Tales

103 Name: Anonymous : 2010-05-12 01:53 ID:wjbB3EBk

How do you pronounce yaoi?
I have been saying it Ya(a as in cat) Yoy(oy as in boy) so YaYoy! is that right?

104 Name: Iaculus : 2010-05-12 02:13 ID:UfXjMbT3

Always thought it was pronounced yow-ee, though I may be wrong.

105 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 02:13 ID:ihWK8g07

it is actually Ya - O - I
you got Ya right and the "oi" is like oy form boy indeed
there is not Yoy though.

やおい=yaoi
や=ya
お=o
い=i

106 Name: ... : 2010-05-12 07:12 ID:EGzzdXc2

So when you say it fast, it does indeed sound like 'yowee'.

107 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 08:11 ID:ihWK8g07

nope it sound ya-o-i clearly, except if someone just can't say it

108 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 08:16 ID:ihWK8g07

"Yowee" would be written as "youi"
ようい
よ=yo
う=u
い=i
which is a different word and it means several things depending on the kanji that is used.

109 Name: ... : 2010-05-12 09:06 ID:EGzzdXc2

'Ou', when said fast, makes an 'o' sound (as in 'woe'), while 'ao', when said fast, makes an 'ow' sound (as in 'cow'). Obviously, it's not exactly right, in much the same way as the french é is not pronounced exactly like a Canadian 'eh', or an 'ay' sound, but it's close.

110 Name: KuroShoujo : 2010-05-12 10:09 ID:DWwwpQcD

Yaoi is definetly written
やおい=yaoi
や=ya
お=o
い=i
This is because there's a famous sentence in Japan:
YAmete Oshiri ga Itai ->Stop it my ass hurts XD
YA O I

You just say ya-o-i I speak Japanese pretty well so with me it never sounds like Yowee

111 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 10:10 ID:ihWK8g07

you are right about the "ou" sound it is actually an extending "o" but you are wrong on the "ao" both "a" and "o" sounds have to be heard to understand the word

112 Name: sharingansupergirl-kun : 2010-05-12 10:19 ID:5CmCNdBy

>>111, I cannot wait to use that in conversation. Pray, tell me more...

113 Name: ... : 2010-05-12 10:55 ID:EGzzdXc2

'Ow' is comprised of two sounds, an 'a' and a 'u'. The 'u' is the reason it is not an exact match, which is also the reason why it only sounds similar when said fast, as syllables run into each other. Take 'January' in English- Janyuarry, Janyuary, Janyuerry, Janyurry, Janyurih, Janyuarih, Jahnyuerry, Jenyrrih, Jinyurih, Junyuhrih, Jehnyuree, Jonyurih...

114 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 11:02 ID:ihWK8g07

but we are talking about Japanese not English
Black Lady in >>111 explained it exactly how it is.

115 Name: ... : 2010-05-12 11:36 ID:EGzzdXc2

It's a larger difference in perception than it is in actual sound. If you are referring to the way 'yaoi' would be pronounced in Japan, where the length of sounds can alter meaning, then of course you say it 'ya-oi'. In an English-speaking country, where this isn't the case, it normally runs together into something closer to 'yowee'. It's similar to the way only a pretentious git pronounces 'croissant' as 'crrwassou' in Starbucks (but cwasson is fine).

116 Name: セーラーエリスは刀の女ですか。 : 2010-05-12 12:11 ID:ihWK8g07

I am talking of how the word it should be sound not how someone who had never heard of how hiragana/katakana characters are pronounced
those who have at least study Japanese a bit know how to say the word right.
and as I said before if you do not pronounce it as it should be, then it can be a different word or worst a non existent word.

117 Name: ... : 2010-05-12 13:52 ID:EGzzdXc2

Hm, I had assumed that the questioner was asking how the word had been adapted in the UK/US. I have just remembered, however, that this is fanbbs, so a question on how to pronounce a PHONETIC romanisation is to be expected. Therefore:

'Yaoi' is pronounced 'yaoi'.

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