OKay, some say life on Earth was an accident, Some say, we were created by a god or multiple gods, some explain it with science. With all these theories, no one knows for sure how we got here, so who's to say that whatever caused us to end up here, didn't sprout life on another planet? They did find frozen bacteria on Mars, suggesting the existence of previous life or hinting at future life.
I personally find it hard to believe that there isn't life on other planets. I mean, what are the odds that we're the only planet with any form of life in the entire expanse of this never ending universe?
Yume.....I am no longer related to you. If anyone asks, I'm your evil step brother who cares nothing about you, okay?
UH-OH, IT'S TALKING TO ITSELF, QUICK, KILL IT!
Oh, so you're here, I'm assuming that you're the same anonymous I was talking with in the other thread and the reason the IP address is the same is because she and I are forced to share a laptop since mine broke.
A brother and sister, hm? How many years are there between you?
and how is that any of your business? Out of curiosity, have you ever read a book titled "Vagrant Summer" because you act a lot like a certain annoying character from it.
I'm curious, of course, and no.
wow, that just makes the resemblance in attitude almost creepy..anyway, I don't feel like telling you so I won't bother with it.
If I put an anorak on and offer you candy, will you reconsider?
oh wow, candy! Of course, I'll just do anything for candy. I'll take a guess that you're about ten.
First off, Anon's just being funny (I hope), no need to bash on him.
Secondly, I'll take a candy if you're offering.
Also, Vagrant summer was boring and on to the actual thread topic, of course there's life on other planets, just probably not within our current abilities to reach them.
Anyone who really thinks about it should realize it. Life might happen by accident, but happening once, means it's very plausible to happen somewhere else if the same conditions are met, heck, even if the conditions are different, it's possible.
I have a van with some puppies in it. Would you like to see the puppies?
I don't like puppies, or dogs in general for that matter.
Finally! Someone actually posts in this thread because of the actual topic!!! I've been sitting and waiting forever, who knew it would take so long?
Anyway, I totally agree with you on the life on other planet thing.
As for the book, I find it very good so far, but each person has their own opinion so I'll let it drop.
Here's one thing about other life to think of though. If other life reaches us first, what would that mean for us then?
Well, I think there is some scraps of evidence that they already have visited us but then again, it isn't exactly 100% reliable evidence.
I talked about it with other sci-fi nerds and we agreed that if we were visited, it could be bad on multiple levels.
1) As proven on this site, we can barely tolerate each other, how would we tolerate other sentient life that wasn't human, or not from Earth.
2)Being able to reach us implies high levels of technology and therefore they could wipe us out in a matter of hours.
Of course this is cynical thinking. Other ways of thinking could be that they come to beign enlightenment to us and bring peace on Earth.
There was an interesting article in the paper this morning about how humans are very close to being able to create black holes, and that there is new evidence pointing towards the long upheld sci-fi belief that a black hole is a portal to...somewhere. In this case, it could be to another universe. Therefore, even if there is no life in this particular universe, there may be another universe with life in... and our universe may have been created by them.
hmm, you know, that made me wonder about something. What if each universe is ultimately created for only one planet to be inhabited at a time? What if, when we finally kill this planet (which is bound to happen at the rate we're going) Life sprouts on another planet? And what if this has happened before?
What if Pluto used to be thriving with life but the life killed the planet and it ultimately froze over? Or maybe it was Mars since they found the frozen bacteria, or maybe Mars will be the planet to replace us. Maybe the universe is giving life multiple chances, in our case, eight (or nine) chances to achieve a balanced life that will thrive and not live at the expense of the planet.
The evidence is all circumstantial and I admit it's a pretty out-there idea but it's still a possibility.
It's possible. Probable even. But, unless someone provides evidence to the contrary, it will remain unknown
It's always said on documentaries that the earth is extremely lucky to be in the right distance to the sun for conditions of life to be possible. There are countless other galaxies outside of this universe - and scientists have a theory that this universe will continue to expand without stopping. Here's what I think: In any of those separate galaxies, there are a number of planets residing in them; and each one or some of them could have their very own sun like ours. If that is true, then perhaps at least one galaxy has a similar 'Earth' of its own, a planet just at the perfect distance to a source of energy and heat for life to exist.
A speculative guess from me, but who's to say that it can't be possible? I don't think we'll ever know for sure; at least not in this lifetime, as it takes lightyears to travel to other galaxies, let alone to planets in our galaxy.
And of course there's the Fermi Paradox: there are countless stars, and even more planets, out there, so the odds are at least one more will have intelligent life on it, probably more. So why haven't they contacted us?
Well maybe the reason is that they can't because they don't have technology advanced enough to reach our planet from so far. We can't say whether other life, if there is any, has the kind of tech to communicate across lightyears of space to other far-away galaxies. Even with the advancements of our space technology we haven't come across a living intelligent lifeform yet, only foreign bacteria, which is hardly a find.
Perhaps if there is another life out there with thinking capacity, they're wondering the same thing. Who knows.
By the way, have you seen video clips of supposed spacecraft filmed by witnesses? It's quite fascinating and almost believable. It tempts me to think that they're true, but something tells me it's not, even though they look real. Actually I'm suspicious about the whole thing.
millions of planets
imposible that this is the only one with life on it
This is the thread that I belong in!
Yes, I totally believe that there is life. There HAS to be life on other worlds. I refuse to believe that we are the only ones. In our local group of stars, there had to be enough materials to form our world and ensure that we could evolve. This stellar material, such as Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen has to be present close-by.
I was just reading not too long ago about Gliese 581 g having a high potential for liquid water on the surface. Where there's water...
In this big, bad universe with billions upon TRILLIONS of stars, there has to be potential for life. There's no way that we can be the only accident of our kind out here.
I know that one day we will find life. Maybe it won't be intelligent, but it will be there. I look forward to the day and hope that before I die, I can know that we aren't in this one alone. The Drake Equation speaks for itself.
In such a vast universe, I find it hard to believe that there's not life somewhere else than Earth.
Do I think that they're little green men flying around abducting out cows and drawing pretty pictures in our corn? Not so much.
Whoever said God created us I think I can repsond with this:
"Then why are there so many other planets? Are they failed experiments? Surely he couldn't've just said 'Oh I'll make other planets to let the things I create explore! Yaaay That'll be fun 8D'"
Srsly.
I do believe that there IS indeed another planet like ours, perhaps they're waiting for us to develop lightspeed... Waiting for us to stop being so damn primitive.
I reckon that there's duplicas of us, with different names... Or even a different gender!
That'd be fun to meet a male version of me XD
>>27 I wouldn't say the other planets are 'failed experiments'...
And wouldn't those be alternate universes, rather than just other planets in the same universe?
Technically, what does one mean when we say 'life'. Isn't it just a chance, a random amalgam of certain proteins that we call the first 'living' thing? I know that I am not very clear (how can i be clear when the issue itself is too complex?) but what I am trying to say 'lets just see both the living and non living together'. Aren't both living and non living made up of atoms and molecules? Aren't living beings just a complex mix of random molecules, all of which function (undergo chemical reactions and stuff) in such a way that this cluster of the molecules (or the being) fulfills our criterion for a 'living body'? So from a broader perspective, if there is something 'living' out there, would we still call it 'life' even though it may not fit our definition of 'life'? Water flows due to gravity. We can explain it through physics. We know the process of how it happens and why it happens. And since gravity is helping water to flow we say water wouldn't move by itself. Hence water doesn't fullfil an important criterion for a living body which is 'growth and movement'. But lets say we do not know what gravity is....then what? Doesn't water fullfil the 'movement' criterion at least? Lets take another ridiculous example...Do you call the transformers 'living' or simply 'high tech robots'? Since we do not know the why's and how's of their origin, we conclude that they are 'living', the key point being 'since we do not know'. It might be quite true that due to our lack of knowledge of things today, we may not even know if life somewhere out there is really life. Even if we follow our existing definition of life, what are the odds of finding something that fits this definition? Simple argument says the universe is too vast for life away from earth not to occur. But even if there are lots of suitable stars with suitable planets (assuming life exists in planets from our existing definition), what are the odds of those certain proteins to form the right mixture to sustain that first single cell? What are odds that it would survive after that? What are the odds that it will form multiple cells? Even if that happens, what are the odds that they may generate the required technology? Would they even 'think' (assuming they can think) to contact us out of curiousity (assuming they are curious)? Would they not think of themselves first, and about the better survival of their species? What are the odds that we can contact them or observe their existence? Currently the moon is the farthest place that man has sent a manned mission to. According to Einstien we cannot physically overcome the speed of light. And the nearest star itself is light years away... And even if we send information through radio waves (which we have already done) it again comes back to "do they have the technology?". There are so many things we do not know now. We have questions but not answers. When I look up at night sky, i wonder what is beyond all of these. We have theories which we accept to be the truth but no one is sure. Which is why, because we have no answers, i believe people 'believe'. And unfortunately a lunatic like isn't one of those people, and so i can only ponder and wonder...
Two flaws to your arguement that I noticed...
One, we do know what gravity is (kinda) so that point is invalid.
Two... transformers aren't real, sweety.
>>30 Yes, currently we know what gravity is and i am not a 7 year old to believe that transformers are real. You missed the point. I said ''lets say we do not know of gravity...." and about transformers, i myself said it was a "ridiculous example". We didn't always exactly 'know' about gravity, did we? Similarly, there are things which we do not know now and perhaps haven't even thought of.
By the knowledge we have now, it is quite possible that we overlook something what might be 'life' (as we know it now) or even mistake something to be 'living' (some astronomers mistook radio waves from the first discovered pulsar as signals from extraterestials. Of course, that is just a small example. I am talking on a large scale). Speaking in a comic sense, in the comicverse of transformers, would anyone there believe tranformers to be 'extraterestial life' or would they think them to be just 'high tech robots' from who knows where and leave it at that? Analogically, if a probe to Enceladus or Titan or even Europa finds something (ofcourse assuming it is possible to find something), it is a major possibility that the something is so wierd that we would have a hard time defining if it is 'living' or not, which probably would force us to question our basics.
Then again, it might be just me thinking weird and questioning the definition of 'life' itself.
>>32 quick hide!
>>30 I see your point thar.
>> -chuckle- Well they say that we were created in a day by "God" so if that were true then why are there other planets as such? Surely this "God" didn't just think
"Lets give them something to explore" ^^
However lets say we DO find life on another planet, and they come to meet us.
What would they do then?
My brother said to me that the only reason another life would come to this planet is for resources (: So really they'd just kill us all.
What do you guys/gals think?