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i am a all-out fangirl of yaoi! there are some cases where i read some yaoi stories and they are written by guys. When i read the reviews, i see some anonymous reviewers saying how only gay guys read, write, and like yaoi. and same goes with girl authors and yuri stories. does this have ANYTHING to do with sexual preference? in my opinion i think that more girls like yaoi and more guys would like yuri. any thoughts?
I personally hate yaoi, because I as a straight guy don't want to read/write about two guys. I do like yuri these days, but not because I like to see a sex scene between two girls or anything. I'm just obsessed with cute and yuri can be extremely cute, more so than het or yaoi.
On-topic now: From what I know most girls like to write yaoi, but I know some girls who are really into yuri. Hell, they got me into it. The guys I know who write are mostly into het pairings. In fact, I don't know any guys who write yaoi, and only one who writes yuri. (That one being myself) In conclusion, I think it really depends on your own preferences, and that a person's sexuality doesn't necessarily comes into play.
I'm not a fan of yaoi, yuri, het, whatever... I'm a fan of individual pairings. So for example, I ship Marik and Yami Bakura from Yu-gi-oh, but I also love Rogue and Gambit from X-men. I think it's the characters that's the important thing, not what sexuality the couple are.
There is a writer on FF.net whose girlfriend got him into yaoi writing. I can't remember his name, but his girlfriends is Au Revoir Amour. I think it's just because her name is Goodbye Love, that is stood out to me.
I'm a yaoi reader and a gen writer. I've written one mild het, but I rarely read het. I think there are a grand total of three het fics on my favourite. I'm also a girl. I rarely read yuri, but I'm bisexual. I don't think it matter who you're attracted to, I think it just matters who you like reading about. I personally think Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy or more suited together than Harry and Ginny, but I also think Neville and Luna are great together.
For the most part, I'm like Lupa - individual pairings are key. In my main fandom, when I'm not writing gen, my ship preference leans towards Jack/Carly (my OTP and a canon pairing), but I also like Jack/Kazama; but in Bleach, asides from Ikkaku/Yumichika (which can be either pairing-or-bromance), I lean almost exclusively towards het pairings. I think it depends on the initial material, and the characters involved, on whether I'd choose any particular type of pairing - if any.
>>9 - Whenever I find a guy writer, I'm like, yay! Actually, the one person I've so far ever pulled off a co-story on, is male. we bounce ideas back and forth, and I think... if it weren't for him, it would not be anywhere near as good of a story, if I had just done it on my own.
>>10 - I am not sure if that really is off topic. As a female, you are probabbly the first male slash writer I can say I've met, as all the ones I meet personally, have been het writers. Then again, I stick to the het side of writing when it comes to fanfiction. If it is original work, I am not so bothered with it, because it is someone elses characters, that I know they created to be that way.
>>12 - I might not be a slash reader or writer, but I personally agree that Harry/Draco has more dynamics then Harry/Ginny. I think, it has to do with the fact, Ginny's character was developed to be third string in importance, to even characters like Luna and Nevile, and recieved less true development.
>>13 - You reminded me of the fact that in Bleach, I had someone who is typically a fan of slash pairings, but told me that they couldn't stomach Gin/Toshiro.
I am a guy and I tend to read stories that don't focus on romance. When I do, I stay on the stright and narrow. Nothing aginst the others, I just don't like it, not even the Yuri.
I write yuri, and I'm a girl. I don't like yaoi despite the fact that I support a few yaoi pairings. And I just can't get it over my heart to write het. I just can't. :I
I've got nothing against straight people --or homosexuals for that matter: I'm bisexual myself. But I don't think that has anything to do with it. I know a guy who likes both yuri and yaoi, but is straight. So yeah. Depends.
@KatonRyu: HELL YEAH. 'T was about time you started writing yuri! I'm glad you enjoy being on the dark side. You want a cookie? :'D
I'm a basically asexual girl, though I am straight (on a look but don't touch thing :P) and I tend to stick to het pairings (I read the occasional yaoi, but most are no great or feminise otherwise awesome characters), simply because I find it easiest to write. Most fanfiction writers seem to be female, so seeing a male is really a novelty.
@KatonRyu, hey there man. Whats it like surrounded by all this oestrogen?
What I'd love to see and want to try out myself, is a story with no pairings so to speak. The main focus being adventure or action as opposed to romance.
@14, I also like of bromance like House/Wilson (I can't see them in a romantic relationship of any sorts, but they are kinda borderline that y'know).
So this is just my two cents on the topic.
@KatonRyu: -gives a cookie- good boy :3
I noticed that, while we have threads on 'weird reviews' and 'best flamer', we don't have a thread, for out there responses that we recieve from people we leave reviews from. I will be upfront, that I am a critiquer, and write reviews so that writers can become better writers. To me, critique, and flaming are two different things. Also, I want people to feedback to me, if they find something I need to immprove upon in my reviews.
Some people say that they don't want critique, because they don't want their reviews to say anything negative about the work. However, the site guidelines clearly state 'not all reviews will strictly praise the work' and 'if someone rightfully criticizes a portion of the writing, take it as a compliment that the reviewer has opted to spend his/her baluable time to help improve your writing'. To note, the very next guideline, says the reviewer must respect the writer.
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Well, recently, I got a response back about a story I reviewed. Not in one place, did they tell me how my review was offensive, and I couldn't go back and check, because they had deleted the fanfic. Yet they claimed that I was slandering the person.
Personally, I ask my readers to leave me contructive criticism on my stories because it is my desire to please my readers. I very rarely get alot of this, mostly praise, but when I do get it I always take it into consideration. If it is about spelling or grammar (rarely, but I have had a few fubars that I needed to fix) I always go and fix it, if it is something about the actual plot or characters I always think it over and try to apply it to the story in my mind and if it works I'm very likely to use it, if not I still thank the reader and apologize that I couldn't use their idea.
>>1 I agree that their is a HUGE difference between a critique and a flame. I hate flames and flamers, and ask that anyone who wants to give a negative review on my story to give me some critique on how I can make it better. I try never to flame (I can only think of one time that I left an actual flame) and always offer constructive criticism to an author who's story is lacking. Surprisingly, I've never had negative retaliation from someone who's story I've critiqued. Actually, 3 of the stories I've critiqued over the last year I am now betaing and have become friends with the authors.
I think if someone can't handle critique then they shouldn't write. Every author receives criticism. Even published and famous authors.
>>6 - I actually like doing that too. I remember that critique was a big deal for me, on my first chaptered fanfic. I had an amazing anon. reviewer, who helped me with some of the spelling and gramatical stuff, that I hadn't quite mastered when I first started moving.
I also LOVE using people's ideas to add onto my stories. Sometimes, it is for that given story, or a side story, or a completly different one.
I too have only once left an actual flame, and that was when I kept cutting down the review, and to which I appologized to the author. I offer writers the chance to point out to me how I can improve on my reviews, and I offer to take a look at other people's reviews, to see if they are flames for people... because fact is, I've talked to some people, and they simply don't know.
I also don't concider telling someone off, to be more respectful a flame either though. I am not talking about, telling people they can't write slash, but when people use someone elses character as a personal hormonal play toy, or they character bash, I speak up, because that definatly isn't right, or respectful. I also speak up on sensitive issues, like the fanfic that had George Bush nuke all Redwall, or another fanfic that the author said they were writing a fanfic about drugs, to help people on drugs, and people who've fallen victum, but truth was, the tone of the story mocked the problem, more then anything else.
bummed I just left a review for a person, that was more lecture about not growing as a writer, then critique on their fanfic. The person has been writing for four months, and has written over twenty fanfics. I'd left advice on a BUNCH of their other fanfics, a couple of months ago, and over time, but I've been ignored, because her fanfics got eaten up by the rabbid Toshiro/Momo fans. However, now she's moved onto other pairings, is bragging about writing so many fanfics. She breaks site rules, wrote a sequel to one fanfic, BEFORE asking the other author's permision (she got it afterwards). Not to mention, quite a few of her fanfics BREAK site rules.
Actually, the fanfic was for a pairing I REALLY like, and I loved the summary. I clicked the link, and was bombarded by text problems. I also got slammed with Toshiro/Momo as a pairing. I don't mind it as a pairing, so long as the right character development is there. But, this writer seriously treats it as if it is canon/should be canon. shudder
I like constructive criticism, giving or receiving. Only few don't like my criticism but so far I only had four respond back to me (one in a vulgar way while the other two appreciated that I found it entertaining but not great and explained to me the certain aspects I pointed out while the last one thanks me for actually giving advice).
But for the most part I hardly ever get criticism. I had to go as far as saying 'look you can critisize me, I won't get mad. Have fun and be a b*tch about it.' I was joking of course but this one reviewer made me LOL because she did it all in good humor asking me if she was b*tchy enough while putting a ;3 sign. Other than that I only got at least some criticism on my one-shots and rarely my stories.
I like getting criticism because it means people care enough to want to improve my work; something which is always good. However there is the line where flames come in which obviously are never nice. Although I don't get much of either so I have to rely on my beta to get on my case over things which I love her for.
It always makes my day when people get hyped up and make a big deal out of receiving constructive criticism; I find it funny when people can't see that people are trying to help them.
I like getting criticism because it means people care enough to want to improve my work; something which is always good. However there is the line where flames come in which obviously are never nice. Although I don't get much of either so I have to rely on my beta to get on my case over things which I love her for.
It always makes my day when people get hyped up and make a big deal out of receiving constructive criticism; I find it funny when people can't see that people are trying to help them.
I prefer the reviewers that call you on your BS or mistakes. If you can't see when you're sucking at something in particular, how are you ever going to find out?
>>12 I want to say thank you for saying that. It goes back to the whole thing I brought up earlier. Because she gets so much PRAISE for her fanfics, from gusher reviews, she hasn't made a single effort to improve.
I always ask for criticism because I want to improve. Hardly ever get it, though. Usually I just get praise, which is nice, but criticism would be very welcome too. Sometimes I realize I do something wrong, but leave it like that because altering it would screw up the story beyond repair, but mostly I like to do things right.
If I have serious criticism, when a fic needs some SERIOUS work on it then I PM them. They're less likely to bitch about it if it's on their review page. I want people to improve and actually take advice, so that's my idea of making sure they pay attention to what I have to say.
I've recently read an OC Fruits Basket fanfiction and I think that it's the best one I've come across. Ever.
It literally keeps getting better chapter by chapter and it really sucks you in. It's called "Hopeless" by dark-ninja-ayane.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2361311/1/bHopeless_b
I think this may be the best OC story I've ever read for any fandom. O.O
Anyone else come across some amazing OC stories?
Ffs, an unbelievable feature =/= AUTOMATIC MARY SUE.
Two amazing Harry Potter OC fics are http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/hp_spy_01.html (warning, it gets very gruesome at times) and http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2297701/1/A_Merciless_Affection which portrays Severus Snape in an accurate way (i.e. as an arsehole).
Ah, I wasn't trying to imply that you were disagreeing with me on that point; I was highlighting that that was my disagreement with Yemi Hikari.
>>37 I really liked the second one. The first one wasn't really my type.
>>25 Amazing story! Thanks for the post.
@ Yemi Hikari
I read the story (Hopless) up to chapter 24 (planning to finish it later) and I think I'm going to disagree with you about the OC being a Sue and that she doesn't advance the plot.
I'll admit that writing-wise, I've seen a few that have been better but I'm going to take into account that the author began this story when she was young. However, plot-wise, the story is incredible.
May I ask why you think the OC is a Mary Sue other than the fact that she is the wolf? I'm trying to understand your POV, that's all.
>>43 - Part of it may be, I wasn't able to get past the sixth chapter, because eveything to me was the same plot practically as the original. So, that is going to have to be up to someone who has gotten past the first six to determine wether it follows the same plot as the story, or eventually develops into its own.
From what I gandered, and can't remember which chapter I read it in of the six, she has a seal apparently, which to me read too much like Kyo's seal on his alternate form. I could have misread, and there be no seal there, or the author has a different intention for it, or they forgot about it in the course of writing the fanfic.
Also, she's supposed to be the gaurdian of Akito. This makes no sense to me, as in Chinese myth, it is the Dragon who is the gaurdian of the emperor, and it doesn't seem to be needed at all.
Hopefully the first paragraph explains things better. As for my other two paragraphs, I haven't brought up the first one, and the second one, someone brushed under the rug as if it didn't matter, or at least that's what their words seemed to say.
P.S. - No... the author's writing isn't the best... I've seen ones that are better, and far better. But I've seen worse, and far worse too. It's where I expect a begining author to be. That being said, I also have to wonder, what would happen if the author were to go back, and look over the story, and try to improve it, or write a new version.
@YEMI HIKARI
Would you please shut the hell up and get over yourself? You're trying to sound all intelligent but it's clear to the rest of us that you're not. Stop trying to "give advice". What you're really trying to do is hijack this great author's story and turn it into something that YOU would want to read. I've read all your posts and the only point you've made is that you don't like the story because you don't like the fact that the OC is a wolf, thus labeling her a Mary Sue. Not only is that rude, as Anonymous said in an earlier post, it's insulting.
Btw, please learn how to properly use commas.
Hi. So I have been writing for 24 lately - which is considered a very popular show. I have gotten 7 reviews on my chapter 1. I'm barely getting anything, no matter favorites, alerts, reviews or hits, on the rest. I'm getting down by that. I'm doing so much my best to make everything nice, and such. Yet no one seems to be interested. Do you guys experience it, too: that feeling down because of almost no hits/reviews, feeling less happy to write on your chapters, and feeling not really in the mood for updating anytime soon because no one cares any way? I do. How do you get many/more readers/hits/reviews?
>>65 Well, it's not hard to review, true, but maybe some readers who aren't very knowledgeable of creative processes don't know what exactly they 'should' say, in relation to how 'good' a story is. That's for more in-depth needs, but anyway, perhaps they are too lazy if they really like a story but can't be bothered to press a few buttons to express their enjoyment. A favorite alert is enough for them.
I don't think it's an obligation to review; that's going too far to say that. For writers and readers it's a loose kind of partnership. The writer writes for the audience, the reader in turn comments on the work. But it's not like the writer can force readers to like their story, or voice their opinions. If readers enjoy reading enough, they wouldn't need to be forced to review; they'd do so.
>>67 - I haven't complained about my stories getting a lot of reviews or not. I am more upset that the good fanfics out there, other then just my own, don't get as much reviews as someone who doesn't work that hard on fanfiction.
Also, we're trying to give advice for getting more reviews, that doesn't equate bad writing, or bad manners. Yes, the kind of fanfic you talk about, is going to pander a lot of reviews, but it also falls into the catagory of popularity versus quality, which people are irritated with.
I concider the reviews public in the first place, so questions that are asked, are in truth public questions. I also don't believe that only one person, will wonder the same question, but didn't think to voice them. If it is a question about the fanfic, then there is no way it is simply private, except for select circumstances.
>>69 - I fully understand some people reviewing sporadically. The person in comment >>65 was talking about the fact their sister NEVER reviewed, not once. I find it impossible that, someone would have nothing at all to say, on anything.
>>71 - Sometimes writing the popular pairing works, but not when the fanbase is rabbid for the most part, or those who lurk the fanfics and write the fanfics. For Bleach, that would be Toshiro/Momo, the most popular pairing, if one goes by number of fanfics. But if you go with the number of people who write OoC fluff, it actually cuts it down greatly.
As for >>67... yes, the last sentence was amusting.
Give it a good airing. Get some charcoal, repair cracks, etc. It can be difficult to dehumidify a sentence, but persevere.
>>70 Don't get excited, I wasn't attacking you or anyone else. I was just saying lack of reviews isn't always a bad thing. The traffic tracking function was the best thing they ever added to FF imo. You can tell if people are reading even if they don't say so.
>>71 That excursion didn't quite go as well as I had hoped. I had forgotten about the vast gulf of fics that are simply bad and got lost somewhere the fourth or fifth story in that made my eyes bleed.
And yet I kept reading them. It's watching a B movie, only instead of waiting for the plot twist you saw coming 30 minutes earlier it's homonyms and the eventual introduction of a quirky character that suspiciously shares the same first name as the author.
>>74 - Got it.
Lol! The traffic tracking function does do wonders. Of course, I know someone who thought because he got about ten to twenty hits to one of his fanfics, meant his fanfic was majorly popular. I kindly pulled up my stats, and showed them to him on my computer. That was back when we lived in the same area.
However, I've also had someone brag on having less then a hundred hits to their fanfic, for a fanfic about seventeen chapters long.
That's also why some people call fanfiction.net the pit at times. B movies can be fun, because you can laugh at the absurdity. My brother watches a LOT of those type, when they come on TV. He's got a good eye. To bad he's dyslexic, because he would make an awsume fanfic critiquer, so I think.
I noticed crossovers seem to get more reviews as long as there well writen. I saw one with over 1000 reviews and it had no romance at all. What really matters is how long your story sits at the top of the update page, the longer its there the more chance someone new reads it. And since there are far fewer crossovers the story can sit on the first page for weeks, even if the fandoms are popular.
>>76 - It used to be, crossovers didn't get as much, before the system came into place. I got a lot less hits on my crossovers before, then after, because no one wanted to dig through, to try and find their particular fandom or fandoms they wanted to read about. Now, it's been made easy.
I love a good crossover, but they're so difficult to find!
There's no shortage, of course, to hordes of anime characters randomly transferring in to study at Hogwarts or dragon riders suddenly finding themselves in the War of the Ring, but all too often writers seem to use the setting and characters of one world to highlight and enhance the abilities of characters from another. Disparate worlds are also very difficult to tie together seamlessly, though I have seen it done before, and with a great level of thought put into the job.
So what about you? What do you like in a crossover? What makes you hit the back button halfway through? Would you recommend a particular fic for particular fandoms? Have you written any yourself?
I like certin crossovers. I happen to write Inuyasha crossovers, Kagome centric. I do read some other crossovers that aren't inu crossovers but not often.
to me, i think crossovers depend on how they are executed. it has to all fit together perfectly. and crossovers are difficult to my eyes. alot of planning, i think, has to be properly edited in order to make it great. of course i wouldnt know. i have an idea for a crossover, but i need to finish my old stories first. i have slacked off for too long and adding a new story isnt going to cut it.
>>39 - You are right, that crossovers are difficult. Slapping two fandoms together is not only not unique, or interesting, this ends up making it so the stories follow the same plot, or no plot at all. Or, their is no point to it.
Heh heh, I'm guilty of a crossover or two -- in fact, I've made exactly two ('Naruto: Champion Tournament' does not count as a separate crossover because it is set in the same continuity as 'INVADER NARUTO'). Though, ironically, I think the crossover I regret the most is 'Metroid Legacies', if only because I have little active interest in it and yet is easily my most popular fic. I mean, it's not like it's especially bad, or anything, it's just that I got myself in way over my head with it. I just wish people would devote that sort of attention to some of my other, better fics.
Er, hrm... that kind of got a little awkward, there. But moving on: the crossover I regret the least was/is 'INVADER NARUTO', largely because where 'Metroid Legacies' tries and fails to take itself seriously, 'INVADER NARUTO' is a completely nonsensical exercise in silliness. But it isn't the fic itself I like, so much as the idea of the fic: there's no wangst or overwrought drama, just bad jokes and self-deprecating humor. It's inherently absurd, which is why it is my personal favorite out of my crossovers.
I recently wrote a crossover for 5D's/Pokémon, but like EvilFuzzy said, it didn't try to take itself seriously at all. It was simply inspired by a crack fanart -- a 5D's character, Crow, asking a Murkrow if it would be his friend -- and evolved from there. Didn't even touch on how Crow was in this different universe, because the story was purely focussed on Crow and this Murkrow.
I don't mind crossovers, as a rule of thumb, but I'm rather particular about them. Usually they have to make some sort of sense (though there are exceptions), and I generally dislike pairings involving characters from different universes, but only because I can't see how it would work. It's easy to do badly, and difficult to do well.
I exclusively write Crossovers. I have been for six years now.
The funny thing is, every time people tell me about my stories, they all say they did it because it seemed funny. They read and realized that I did a good job of mixing two universes together, and integrating them into one another! One thing led to another, and I based a world around my creation!
I exclusively write Crossovers. I have been for six years now.
The funny thing is, every time people tell me about my stories, they all say they did it because it seemed funny. They read and realized that I did a good job of mixing two universes together, and integrating them into one another! One thing led to another, and I based a world around my creation!
>>44 - I can't judge, as I don't know the fandoms, but if they are right, I know enough about them, to say that you likely did a good job in what you did.
I like crossovers that make logical sense. The writer has to put time into understanding the worlds and bringing them together. For example, I've read many Bleach/Harry Potter stories where despite being around for thousands of years, the Soul Reapers have only just become aware of the wizards, or every reaper can do magic and every wizard can become a soul reaper. Not to say there bad, they just raise questions in my mind.
I read so many of these I actualy chalanged myself to write a bleivable cross between the two. And I like to think I'm doing a good job. Through it is hard to come up with new material so that I'm not just repeating the origanal story, but showing what could happen if a Soul Reaper went to Hogwarts.
>>46 - I've written for Bleach/Harry Potter. A good deal of them are the same old, same old. I don't think all wizards would become shingami, or all shingami would become Wizards. I think, they are two seperate kinds of things.
That's the other thing I don't like about crossovers, is when it just repeats the old material, giving anything new, so I am glad you're focusing on that. Mine... is at the point where it still runs close to the same story line, but then, the shingami have not really entered into the storyline, and I am writing inbetweens, or things that definatly do get changed. I expect readers to know the stuff I don't write about. I've completed Hermione Grangers first year and a half, and I have to get up through two and a half more, before I can start implimenting aditional characters. And then, things will change and not be the same plot at all.
Wow... I just rambled...
Okay read some threads where the opinion about incest is going from creepy/sick, porn, obsession to I like it.
I write incest fic Numb3rs Don/Charlie. When I started to watch the fandom, I blame my friend for getting me hooked, I never thought about pairing the two brothers together. She point out some great fics and finally I started to write them myself.
I know most of you think people who write it are sick. Why? If it is consensual sex between the two brothers, and remember people its fiction, then why not?
I'm also writing them in my wereverse and the team knows, so no secret there. Don't get me wrong, in real life it is wrong and I say if it is a father molesting his child, cut off his private's.
I know someone who went through it and se reads/write's Wincest SPN the Winchester brothers for those who don't know them. I was reluctant to talk about it with her, but she said, if they both want it then it's okay. Remember this it is 'CONSENSUAL' they both want it.
idk, its sometimes occurs to me that some things like yaoi and incest seem much better in fanfictions than in real life. i wonder if anyone else has felt that way
I've read the odd incest fic, by odd I mean a couple of wincest from SPN and I have no problem with it. In real life, I have no problem with gay incest (as in sister-sister, brother-brother, not mother-daughter, father-daughter, ugh). My ideology is that as long as they don't have kids, and they don't get pregnant, than they can do what the hell they want. It doesn't effect me what so ever. Personally, I am not attracted to my siblings, but I get that some people are. Good for them.
On fanfiction, it doesn't really matter, because it's not real. I don't avoid incest but I don't go looking for it. The same way I don't go lookinh for fics where Harry Potter has blue hair or something. I will read it and it wont bother me. Well, okay bad analogy, HP with blue hair would bug me...
>>98 - I think though, just because the characters aren't real, doesn't mean that a fanfic writer shouldn't treat them with respect. I much prefer slash and insest writers who do, and actually look down upon the behavior of those that don't... but that works with het pairings too.
And by the way, I've also seen people confuse not real, with not believable. While an insest pairing between the twins might be believable, if done right, Harry Potter with blue hair (unless died), is never going to be believable. Willing suspense of disbelief.
>>99 - Did you really write homophobic yaoi fangirls? Isn't that... an oxymoron? They are afraid or against gay people, but are into yaoi? Are there REALLY people like that?
@100- Thine eyes must have skimmed over COGNITIVE DISSONANCE, or the obvious would not have been stated, no?
>>100 Yemi it might be an oxymoron but it is not impossible since fictional and real world are different.
Don't forget that the most homophobes are gays in the closet. Because someone who is sure about their sexuality and completely okay with it, has no issues with other sexualities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMIaVBnOhXo
this vid here says it all
>>102, I just checked out that video, it made me laugh. I knew that a lot of homophobes are probably secretly gay themselves, but I can't help but wish they weren't. I know a homophobe, I really hope he's not gay...It'd give me nightmares...
>>103 Why so? I generally find rampant hypocrisy amusing rather than disturbing.
>>102 - Ahh! Now I get what they were saying. I thought most homophobes were over religious zelouts who would concider Disney a problem. Believe me, I have one of those in the family, and his kids are now rebelling as they get to the stage that they can do so.
While I don't agree with it being right, because of religious standpoints, but I refuse to hate them. Two of my friends in high school twins, had divorced parents, and their mother was gay. Also, one of my favorite co-workers, from my last job, he was gay, and one of the kindest people ever. Actually, there were two by the time I left. I had more problems with her girlfriend showing up at work, during buisness hours.
I won't say its right or wrong in the real world, but this is fiction. As long as the story is belivable I have no problem with it.
I just started my PC and quizilla suddenly became TMF.
anyone know anything??
I read wikipedia. It should be back to norm soon.
yeah it's back to normal now. that was weird o.O
Hmh, though I don't really like darkfics (I tend to write one or two in like, a few months if not less), this one's pretty well written ^^ I guess I have no real critism because I am not an expert on these type of fics, but, it was good. I liked the way you describe the situation in the beginning.
It's good. I was almost thinking... fanfiction, this isn't... fanfiction, but went back and reread it was fiction.
Deep words.
I'm interested to know what person you prefer stories written in, 1st or 3rd? And which do you prefer to write in?
I usually write in third person, but I love first person so much. Its just I have to really like the plot of my story to write it. If its written right, first person POV is amazing. Its good for giving detail about the narrating character. Third person is great for giving more insight about what's happening outside of the main characters own mind.
I actually write in first person. I'm a lazy guy who doesn't like to describe too many things so I rather write in first person since the person won't notice certain things. Plus, I'm able to pretend to be the character to some extent if I was in first person
I actually write in first person. I'm a lazy guy who doesn't like to describe too many things so I rather write in first person since the person won't notice certain things. Plus, I'm able to pretend to be the character to some extent if I was in first person
Most of the time I write in third and first person. Though, sometimes I also write in second person.
It's different and that's why I try it out sometimes, though I haven't posted any of them on the net yet. Except one on fictionpress (Everybody's fool).
I write in 3rd person mostly because that's what I'm most comfortable with. I do have a few ideas though; that I think will be better if there in 1st.
When it comes to reading, I like both, but only if--when writing 1st--you know the character really well. If not, it can ruin the experience.
>>55 - To me, I use both first and third to describe things, so I never thought that it could be used as a tool for someone who didn't like describing things. I also like the fact that you said 'to some extent' when pretending to be the characters. Some of the people who write first person, forget that they aren't the characters and it shows badily.
>>57 - You might be more comfortable in third person, but I think there is going to come a point when you will be comfortable to write all those ideas in first, though it might take time. :)
I've had first person point of view ruined MANY times, because either the person didn't know the character well enough, or they put in rabbid fangirl wish fullfillment.
I usually do third person, but for some characters I do first person because I'm very comfortable with them. (Ex. Aki from YGO5D's.)
I'm also most comfortable in third person. I haven't written in first since I started writing forever ago. Third just seems easier to me.
Also, I'll occasionally dabble in second for drabbles or short-oneshots, but not very often. o:
>>58 Thanks! =)
I actually really, really like 1st person narratives (if they're done correctly, of course).
Getting into my favorite characters head, seeing what makes then tick, it can help you realize something’s about then you've never thought of before. It’s like you're right there in their mind, coming along for the ride.
I would've put all this in my last post, but the words wouldn't come out right. (Hate when that happens!)
I prefer third person restricted for the most part, as I find it lets me get just as close to the character while still retaining a degree of impartiality. These are combined with scene shifts (a chapter may have quite a few points of view) to flesh out the characters and the story.
However, I've recently started jotting down notes for a sequel to an as-yet unpublished multichapter, and when writing from the PoV of a particular character I /have/ to use first person.
Still, overall, if I had to choose then third person would probably be the one. I prefer stories written in it too, although I've seen some very good first person fiction.
They would not exist without reason.
This is the reason:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5747757/1/On_top_of_alice
Flames rule.
I seriously hope her writing is a joke...if it is then it would all make sense...
....how did that happen? D:
>>77 - Don't press the reply button multiple times, only once. It takes time to post.
>>79 - If people had left constructive critism, instead of flames in the first place, the person might have started improving their fanfic sooner, and growing as a writer sooner.
I left a review, even though I don't know the fandom, and don't read slash. For everyone looking at this thread, this person is looking for HONEST critisism, to write a better story.
Since the link didn't post, so that people can just click, I'm redoing it.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5941273/9/If_I_Shall_Die_Before_I_Wake
This post is gold. 4, 37, 43, 55, 66 all made me lol. Reading the first page of that...random mass of letters and the reviews for it had me laughing so hard I almost cried. I don't even care if it's trolling, the amount of positive reviews can't all be BS. Gold.
>>81 - Ahh... you mean My Immortal. You're right in the fact that not all of the good reviews are trollers, but... some people would like to think, there aren't THAT many people who can't desitinquish bad writing from good.
Wait... Twilight had the exact same thing happen to it. There are the people who like, and know it's not the best, but the number of people jumping all over it... shivers...
Where the flippity floppity flump did Zura mention My Immortal?
>>83 - They refered to "positive reviews can't all be BS." In other words, they are refering to the fact that some positive reviews were called out for trolling. That was only mentioned for My Immortal, not the other fanfic. If that isn't what they were talking about, I then haven't got a clue what they were trying to say.
Or, y'know, the rather more obvious explanation that Zura was talking about the fic this thread is about. You're placing your own odd interpretation on something that's pretty straightforward. That's, well, odd.